Judas Gospel – Interpretation of Eshu Ventania

This gospel of Judas is closest to reality. He does not have the coolness that the human being has placed. They did Jesus as a serious man. Jesus was happy. Be happy you too. Exu Ventania

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Dialogue of Judas – II

To read the 1st. Part, please click here: Judas Gospel I

Exu Ventania – Medium: Fernando Parada Website: http://marcelamad.wix.com/mahamantra

Reporter: Mr. Jefferson Viscardi

Website: www.dialogocomosespiritos.com/

INTRODUCTION: INCIPIT
The secret account of the revelation that Jesus spoke in conversation with Judas Iscariot during a week three days before he celebrated Passover.

THE EARTHLY MINISTRY OF JESUS
When Jesus appeared on earth, he performed miracles and great wonders for the salvation of humanity. And since some [walked] in the way of righteousness while others walked in their transgressions, the twelve disciples were called.
He began to speak with them about the mysteries beyond the world and what would
take place at the end. Often he did not appear to his disciples as himself, but he was found
among them as a child.
SCENE 1: Jesus dialogues with his disciples: The prayer of thanksgiving or the eucharist
One day he was with his disciples in Judea, and he found them gathered together and
seated in pious observance. When he [approached] his disciples, [34] gathered together and seated and offering a prayer of thanksgiving over the bread, [he] laughed.
The disciples said to [him], “Master, why are you laughing at [our] prayer of
thanksgiving? We have done what is right.”
He answered and said to them, “I am not laughing at you. <You> are not doing this
because of your own will but because it is through this that your god [will be] praised.”
They said, “Master, you are […] the son of our god.”
Jesus said to them, “How do you know me? Truly [I] say to you, no generation of the
people that are among you will know me.”

THE DISCIPLES BECOME ANGRY
When his disciples heard this, they started getting angry and infuriated and began
blaspheming against him in their hearts.
When Jesus observed their lack of [understanding, he said] to them, “Why has this
agitation led you to anger? Your god who is within you and […] [35] have provoked you
to anger [within] your souls. [Let] any one of you who is [strong enough] among human beings bring out the perfect human and stand before my face.”
They all said, “We have the strength.”
But their spirits did not dare to stand before [him], except for Judas Iscariot. He was
able to stand before him, but he could not look him in the eyes, and he turned his face
away.
Judas [said] to him, “I know who you are and where you have come from. You are
from the immortal realm of Barbelo. And I am not worthy to utter the name of the one
who has sent you.”

JESUS SPEAKS TO JUDAS PRIVATELY
Knowing that Judas was reflecting upon something that was exalted, Jesus said to him,
“Step away from the others and I shall tell you the mysteries of the kingdom. It is
possible for you to reach it, but you will grieve a great deal. [36] For someone else will
replace you, in order that the twelve [disciples] may again come to completion with their god.”
Judas said to him, “When will you tell me these things, and [when] will the great day
of light dawn for the generation?”
But when he said this, Jesus left him.
SCENE 2: Jesus appears to the disciples again
The next morning, after this happened, Jesus [appeared] to his disciples again.#
They said to him, “Master, where did you go and what did you do when you left us?”
Jesus said to them, “I went to another great and holy generation.”
His disciples said to him, “Lord, what is the great generation that is superior to us and
holier than us, that is not now in these realms?”
When Jesus heard this, he laughed and said to them, “Why are you thinking in your
hearts about the strong and holy generation? [37] Truly [I] say to you, no one born [of]
this aeon will see that [generation], and no host of angels of the stars will rule over that generation, and no person of mortal birth can associate with it, because that generation does not come from […] which has become […]. The generation of people among [you] is from the generation of humanity […] power, which [… the] other powers […] by [which] you rule.”
When [his] disciples heard this, they each were troubled in spirit. They could not say a
word. Another day Jesus came up to [them]. They said to [him], “Master, we have seen you in a [vision], for we have had great [dreams …] night […].”
[He said], “Why have [you … when] <you> have gone into hiding?” [38]
THE DISCIPLES SEE THE TEMPLE AND DISCUSS IT
They [said, “We have seen] a great [house with a large] altar [in it, and] twelve
men—they are the priests, we would say—and a name; and a crowd of people is waiting at that altar, [until] the priests [… and receive] the offerings. [But] we kept waiting.”
[Jesus said], “What are [the priests] like?”
They [said, “Some …] two weeks; [some] sacrifice their own children, others their
wives, in praise [and] humility with each other; some sleep with men; some are involved in [slaughter]; some commit a multitude of sins and deeds of lawlessness. And the men who stand [before] the altar invoke your [name], [39] and in all the deeds of their deficiency, the sacrifices are brought to completion […].”
After they said this, they were quiet, for they were troubled.
JESUS OFFERS AN ALLEGORICAL INTERPRETATION OF THE VISION OF THE TEMPLE
Jesus said to them, “Why are you troubled? Truly I say to you, all the priests who stand
before that altar invoke my name. Again I say to you, my name has been written on this […] of the generations of the stars through the human generations. [And they] have planted trees without fruit, in my name, in a shameful manner.”
Jesus said to them, “Those you have seen receiving the offerings at the altar—that is
who you are. That is the god you serve, and you are those twelve men you have seen. The cattle you have seen brought for sacrifice are the many people you lead astray [40] before that altar. […] will stand and make use of my name in this way, and generations of the pious will remain loyal to him. After hi another man will stand there from [the fornicators], and another [will] stand there from the slayers of children, and another from those who sleep with men, and those who abstain, and the rest of the people of pollution and lawlessness and error, and those who say, ‘We are like angels’; they are the stars that bring everything to its conclusion. For to the human generations it has been said, ‘Look, God has received your sacrifice from the hands of a priest’—that is, a minister of error. But it is the Lord, the Lord of the universe, who commands, ‘On the last day they will be put to shame.’” [41]
Jesus said [to them], “Stop sac[rificing …] which you have […] over the altar, since
they are over your stars and your angels and have already come to their conclusion there.
So let them be [ensnared] before you, and let them go [—about 15 lines missing—]
generations […]. A baker cannot feed all creation [42] under [heaven]. And […] to them […] and […] to us and […]. Jesus said to them, “Stop struggling with me. Each of you has his own star, and every[body—about 17 lines missing—] [43] in […] who has come [… spring] for the tree […] of this aeon […] for a time […] but he has come to water God’s paradise, and the [generation] that will last, because [he] will not defile the [walk of life of] that generation, but […] for all eternity.”
JUDAS ASKS JESUS ABOUT THAT GENERATION AND HUMAN GENERATIONS
Judas said to [him, “Rabb]i, what kind of fruit does this generation produce?”
Jesus said, “The souls of every human generation will die. When these people,
however, have completed the time of the kingdom and the spirit leaves them, their bodies will die but their souls will be alive, and they will be taken up.”
Judas said, “And what will the rest of the human generations do?”
Jesus said, “It is impossible [44] to sow seed on [rock] and harvest its fruit. [This] is
also the way […] the [defiled] generation […] and corruptible Sophia […] the hand that has created mortal people, so that their souls go up to the eternal realms above. [Truly] I say to you, […] angel […] power will be able to see that […] these to whom […] holy generations […].”
After Jesus said this, he departed.
SCENE 3: Judas recounts a vision and Jesus responds
Judas said, “Master, as you have listened to all of them, now also listen to me. For I have seen a great vision.”
When Jesus heard this, he laughed and said to him, “You thirteenth spirit, why do you
try so hard? But speak up, and I shall bear with you.”
Judas said to him, “In the vision I saw myself as the twelve disciples were stoning me
and [45] persecuting [me severely]. And I also came to the place where […] after you. I
saw [a house …], and my eyes could not [comprehend] its size. Great people were
surrounding it, and that house <had> a roof of greenery, and in the middle of the house was [a crowd—two lines missing—], saying, ‘Master, take me in along with these people.’”
[Jesus] answered and said, “Judas, your star has led you astray.” He continued, “No
person of mortal birth is worthy to enter the house you have seen, for that place is
reserved for the holy. Neither the sun nor the moon will rule there, nor the day, but the holy will abide there always, in the eternal realm with the holy angels. Look, I have explained to you the mysteries of the kingdom [46] and I have taught you about the error of the stars; and […] send it […] on the twelve aeons.”
JUDAS ASKS ABOUT HIS OWN FATE
Judas said, “Master, could it be that my seed is under the control of the rulers?”
Jesus answered and said to him, “Come, that I [—two lines missing—], but that you
will grieve much when you see the kingdom and all its generation.”
When he heard this, Judas said to him, “What good is it that I have received it? For
you have set me apart for that generation.”
Jesus answered and said, “You will become the thirteenth, and you will be cursed by
the other generations—and you will come to rule over them. In the last days they will
curse your ascent [47] to the holy [generation].”
JESUS TEACHES JUDAS ABOUT COSMOLOGY: THE SPIRIT AND THE SELF-GENERATED
Jesus said, “[Come], that I may teach you about [secrets] no person [has] ever seen. For there exists a great and boundless realm, whose extent no generation of angels has seen, [in which] there is [a] great invisible [Spirit], which no eye of an angel has ever seen, no thought of the heart has ever comprehended, and it was never called by any name.
“And a luminous cloud appeared there. He said, ‘Let an angel come into being as my
attendant.’
“A great angel, the enlightened divine Self-Generated, emerged from the cloud.
Because of him, four other angels came into being from another cloud, and they became attendants for the angelic Self-Generated. The Self-Generated said, [48] ‘Let […] come into being […],’ and it came into being […]. And he [created] the first luminary to reign over him. He said, ‘Let angels come into being to serve [him],’ and myriads without number came into being. He said, ‘[Let] an enlightened aeon come into being,’ and he came into being. He created the second luminary [to] reign over him, together with myriads of angels without number, to offer service. That is how he created the rest of the enlightened aeons. He made them reign over them, and he created for them myriads of angels without number, to assist them.

ADAMAS AND THE LUMINARIES
“Adamas was in the first luminous cloud that no angel has ever seen among all those
called ‘God.’ He [49] […] that […] the image […] and after the likeness of [this] angel.
He made the incorruptible [generation] of Seth appear […] the twelve […] the twentyfour
[…]. He made seventy-two luminaries appear in the incorruptible generation, in
accordance with the will of the Spirit. The seventy-two luminaries themselves made three hundred sixty luminaries appear in the incorruptible generation, in accordance with the will of the Spirit, that their number should be five for each.
“The twelve aeons of the twelve luminaries constitute their father, with six heavens for each aeon, so that there are seventy-two heavens for the seventy-two luminaries, and for each [50] [of them five] firmaments, [for a total of] three hundred sixty [firmaments …].
They were given authority and a [great] host of angels [without number], for glory and
adoration, [and after that also] virgin spirits, for glory and [adoration] of all the aeons and the heavens and their firmaments.
THE COSMOS, CHAOS, AND THE UNDERWORLD
“The multitude of those immortals is called the cosmos— that is, perdition—by the
Father and the seventy-two luminaries who are with the Self-Generated and his seventytwo aeons. In him the first human appeared with his incorruptible powers. And the aeon that appeared with his generation, the aeon in whom are the cloud of knowledge and the angel, is called [51] El. […] aeon […] after that […] said, ‘Let twelve angels come into being [to] rule over chaos and the [underworld].’ And look, from the cloud there
appeared an [angel] whose face flashed with fire and whose appearance was defiled with blood. His name was Nebro, which means ‘rebel’; others call him Yaldabaoth. Another angel, Saklas, also came from the cloud. So Nebro created six angels—as well as Saklas—to be assistants, and these produced twelve angels in the heavens, with each one receiving a portion in the heavens.
THE RULERS AND ANGELS
“The twelve rulers spoke with the twelve angels: ‘Let each of you [52] […] and let them
[…] generation [—one line lost—] angels’:
The first is [S]eth, who is called Christ.
The [second] is Harmathoth, who is […].
The [third] is Galila.
The fourth is Yobel.
The fifth [is] Adonaios.
These are the five who ruled over the underworld, and first of all over chaos.
THE CREATION OF HUMANITY
“Then Saklas said to his angels, ‘Let us create a human being after the likeness and after the image.’ They fashioned Adam and his wife Eve, who is called, in the cloud, Zoe. For by this name all the generations seek the man, and each of them calls the woman by these names. Now, Sakla did not [53] com[mand …] except […] the gene[rations …] this […].
And the [ruler] said to Adam, ‘You shall live long, with your children.’”
JUDAS ASKS ABOUT THE DESTINY OF ADAM AND HUMANITY
Judas said to Jesus, “[What] is the long duration of time that the human being will live?”
Jesus said, “Why are you wondering about this, that Adam, with his generation, has lived his span of life in the place where he has received his kingdom, with longevity with his ruler?”
Judas said to Jesus, “Does the human spirit die?”
Jesus said, “This is why God ordered Michael to give the spirits of people to them as a
loan, so that they might offer service, but the Great One ordered Gabriel to grant spirits to the great generation with no ruler over it—that is, the spirit and the soul. Therefore, the [rest] of the souls [54] [—one line missing—].
JESUS DISCUSSES THE DESTRUCTION OF THE WICKED WITH JUDAS AND OTHERS
“[…] light [—nearly two lines missing—] around […] let […] spirit [that is] within you dwell in this [flesh] among the generations of angels. But God caused knowledge to be [given] to Adam and those with him, so that the kings of chaos and the underworld might not lord it over them.”
Judas said to Jesus, “So what will those generations do?”
Jesus said, “Truly I say to you, for all of them the stars bring matters to completion.
When Saklas completes the span of time assigned for him, their first star will appear with the generations, and they will finish what they said they would do. Then they will fornicate in my name and slay their children [55] and they will […] and [—about six and a half lines missing—] my name, and he will […] your star over the [thir]teenth aeon.”
After that Jesus [laughed].
[Judas said], “Master, [why are you laughing at us]?”
[Jesus] answered [and said], “I am not laughing [at you] but at the error of the stars, because these six stars wander about with these five combatants, and they all will be destroyed along with their creatures.”

JESUS SPEAKS OF THOSE WHO ARE BAPTIZED, AND JUDAS’S BETRAYAL
Judas said to Jesus, “Look, what will those who have been baptized in your name do?”
Jesus said, “Truly I say [to you], this baptism [56] […] my name [—about nine lines
missing—] to me. Truly [I] say to you, Judas, [those who] offer sacrifices to Saklas […]
God [—three lines missing—] everything that is evil.
“But you will exceed all of them. For you will sacrifice the man that clothes me.
Already your horn has been raised, your wrath has been kindled, your star has shown brightly, and your heart has […]. [57]
“Truly […] your last […] become [—about two and a half lines missing—], grieve
[—about two lines missing—] the ruler, since he will be destroyed. And then the image of the great generation of Adam will be exalted, for prior to heaven, earth, and the angels, that generation, which is from the eternal realms, exists. Look, you have been told everything. Lift up your eyes and look at the cloud and the light within it and the stars surrounding it. The star that leads the way is your star.”
Judas lifted up his eyes and saw the luminous cloud, and he entered it. Those standing
on the ground heard a voice coming from the cloud, saying, [58] […] great generation
[…] … image […] [—about five lines missing—].
CONCLUSION: JUDAS BETRAYS JESUS
[…] Their high priests murmured because [he] had gone into the guest room for his
prayer. But some scribes were there watching carefully in order to arrest him during the prayer, for they were afraid of the people, since he was regarded by all as a prophet.
They approached Judas and said to him, “What are you doing here? You are Jesus’
disciple.”
Judas answered them as they wished. And he received some money and handed him over to them.
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Jefferson: So, you said you would not follow the man (Jesus), but his teachings and have the comprehension of what he taught. What taught, That You hear? And if you could go back to the time, you would hear again?

Ventania: Love God above all things. Because I loved money. Do not take His holy name in vain, because I believed in the gods of my mother and the ancient gods of my father. Maybe not follow that frivolous life I lived … and be simpler because his words were very simple and very easy to understand. Remove the blindness of the blind does not mean to make him see, but that he sees, there is eternal life, that he is at that moment simply paying for something he did and it is necessary for the purification of his spirit. I believe I would have been spiritualist at the time. But everything in its time.

Jefferson: Mr. Ventania, I’ll make the reading of the Gospel of Judas. There are few pages and if I have any questions, I’ll ask. If you have any comments, you can stop me too, okay?
Ventania: Yes.

Jefferson: So, this document I have is from Fraternity Rose Crucia Antiqua, tradition Rui racoxo.
Begins like this:

INTRODUCTION: INCIPIT
The secret account of the revelation that Jesus spoke in conversation with Judas Iscariot during a week three days before he celebrated Passover.

Do You want to do some observation on this?
Ventania: Yes, I agree with all that. Revelations were made, many. He revealed all about the secret of life on other planes and that this world is not the only one that God has created and that God is not just a father, but also a mother.
He taught it to the 3 major early follower. As therefore Judas was one.

Jefferson: Why did he only spoke to Judas and not told all this to others?

Ventania: He spoke to Andrew, and spoke to Mary of Magdala. They were the first. But because he selected those who had different functions. Each with its function. He took those most next, which had conditions to change the story.

Jefferson: But what about Peter, James?
Ventania: Peter was a weak man, who fled and denied. They were creating and increasing the papers over time. And there are also lies. They say the body of Pedro lies inside the Vatican. Petrus was never in the Vatican. Men need to pick up relics and say: This is Peter.
Peter had good words, they all had good words. they were all example of pride for Jesus and they all suffered.

Jefferson:

THE EARTHLY MINISTRY OF JESUS
When Jesus appeared on earth, he performed miracles and great wonders for the salvation of humanity. And since some [walked] in the way of righteousness while others walked in their transgressions, the twelve disciples were called.

Ventania: He did nothing for the salvation of humanity and people need proof and he gave evidence. Like other Avatars also gave evidence. Proceed.

Jefferson: Oh, I do not know why it came to my mind “Saibaba”
Ventania: It’s one.

Jefferson: It was an Avatar?
Ventania: Yes. There Avatars rising all the time.

When the situation for you guys here, saying a very popular term, is brave, God in his infinite mercy sends his Avatars. Indigo children are few. They are the first who came in favor.
If you depend on these children, all water on the planet will end. Do you know why? Because they so much defend the earth, love, peace and union, that their mouths would be dry. And they need a lot of water. There are many Avatars among these children. You can be one of them. You believe that it is not?

Jefferson: Yes, I believe am not one.
Ventania:  Look ou 60 years of your earth existence.

Jefferson:Oh my God
Ventania: When you are not here anymore, then you gonna know who you are. 

Jefferson:

He began to speak with them about the mysteries beyond the world and what would take place at the end. Often he did not appear to his disciples as himself, but he was found among them as a child.

Ventania: The best way to understand God is on the form of a child. He spoke of infantile form and playing. During Play is said many truths.
If you observe the cult of Caputinos, they have an image of the Child Jesus of Prague, they say that Jesus should be understood as a child, and the children have purity. then at that point I made the allusion to the crystal children. Then he had all these spirits all these powers in a common spirit. He was indigo, he was avatar, it was crystal. He was a superior being, like other avatars.

It does not exist, a final day, the end of the world. I will be very cold: This world can be destroyed in 3 ways:

The first way: If it is hit by a comet or another planet
Second one is self-destroyed by their wars and nuclear weapons
and the third, with a new era of ice or fire.
So, there is not a day of reckoning. You will determine when will be the day of reckoning. Every time you guys pollutes a river, every time you down a tree, you are coming closer to the final judgment.
But not your final judgment. Your happens every time after disembodies (after death) through the court of your conscience, but the final judgment of the world, that suffers from the existence of these grasshoppers are you guys.

Jefferson: It‘s a damn hungry. Eat everything we see ahead.

Ventania: Not only eat. See, Kill, steal and destroy. The anti-Christ is the human being. He is antichrist. But pretends to be nice.
But in the court of his conscience, as I always say, the real hammer of heretics that is your consciousness, will show which was right and which was wrong.

Jefferson: And here, says that he showed what would happen at the end. You’re saying this: End correspond to the total destruction of the planet. But you have something to say about the possible third world war, nuclear war that can be carried out or the extra-terrestrials will not allow this to happen?
Ventania: If there is merit, interstellar beings managed to prevent. We are infiltrators within large nations.
You can also have an impact of a large planet, but also there is great technologies to divert them. Your  philosophy not think the machines that exist.
Because the only thing that human beings were able to create were machines for destroying.
I will give an example: I existed in France in the13th century and there was a way to kill people, in fact, demand the truth, where you tied both feet of a man in two cypress trees and loosened the cypress trees, and one was torn away.
Then, the human being is far more concerned in creating destruction, instead congregation.
Jefferson: Why it is what most defines the character?
Ventania:  because he disrupts the initial plan. Now I will be very cold,
Lucifer is eyeing this question because Lucifer said, “it is possible to balance reason and emotion. And in this, his name was put into play. Therefore, do not think that Lucifer is a demon. Demon are you, Demon is the human being.
Lucifer is a being far superior and he did not turn up the blessed waters hosteas and oils from anoint.
He is an interplanetary, even coming to the aid of other orbs that are suffering the danger of collision from other celestial bodies. So do not treat him as if he were a devil, but as co-creator of the human race.
If he does not do it neither michaelica race, you guys would only be neanderthales and me too, because when I came I decided to incarnate in human beings, co-created to perfection.
I can give other creations also, to quote Babylon, Sumeria Henel, Henke.But there is an attempt by the higher plane, to balance the human being. And you are with, let’s say, the knife and the cheesein your hand.
You guys can plant beautiful roses in your gardens as guys can exterminate your own world.
Jefferson: Oh my God!

SCENE 1: Jesus dialogues with his disciples: The prayer of thanksgiving or the eucharist
One day he was with his disciples in Judea, and he found them gathered together and
seated in pious observance. When he [approached] his disciples, [34] gathered together
and seated and offering a prayer of thanksgiving over the bread, [he] laughed.
The disciples said to [him], “Master, why are you laughing at [our] prayer of
thanksgiving? We have done what is right.”
He answered and said to them, “I am not laughing at you. <You> are not doing this
because of your own will but because it is through this that your god [will be] praised.”
They said, “Master, you are […] the son of our god.”
Jesus said to them, “How do you know me? Truly [I] say to you, no generation of the
people that are among you will know me.”

Ventania: Not use to bless the bread, falsely, as many are blessed only by mouthwhile these very who bless is destroying the plantation fields from his brotherof incarnation. So it should be placed a little more aware since that time. It is not bless, but become aware of planting. The future of the fields should be sown daily.

Jefferson:

THE DISCIPLES BECOME ANGRY
When his disciples heard this, they started getting angry and infuriated and began
blaspheming against him in their hearts.

Ventania: If the own disciples blasphemed, imagine these thousands of churches around here. They blaspheme against each other. Humans can not hear the word “no”

Jefferson: Wow! They began blaspheming Jesus in their hearts. Much cowardice, huh?

Ventania: blaspheme the heart is worse than talking. Cursing, you can curse the creator, you can curse Jesus, but you can not curse the holy spirit that dwells within you.
For if you do not know what the holy spirit is a myriad of very superior beings working in the practice of good. So there are many spirits saints.

Jefferson:

When Jesus observed their lack of [understanding, he said] to them, “Why has this agitation led you to anger? Your god who is within you and […] [35] have provoked you to anger [within] your souls. [Let] any one of you who is [strong enough] among human beings bring out the perfect human and stand before my face.” They all said, “We have the strength.”

I wonder, it was difficult to deal with. Today, sometimes, there is this culture shock, imagine a being as evolved as Jesus to be patient and stay there with guys who, even nor child were, right?

Ventania: Yes, so he had to go down to the level of children to talk to them.

Jefferson. Ah understood.

“Why has this agitation led you to anger? Your god who is within you and […] [35] have provoked youto anger [within] your souls. [Let] any one of you who is [strong enough] among human beings bring out the perfect human and stand before my face.”
They all said, “We have the strength.”

Ventania: The gods who dwell in each of them. In fact, are programs that are placed so that there was a balance between love and reason.
In that moment of hatred, they have already lost their programming. They were tested all the time.

Jefferson: Jesus talking, as if going over the ego and talking straight to the soul of them, right?

Ventania: Yes.

Jefferson:

But their spirits did not dare to stand before [him], except for Judas Iscariot.

Ventania: That was true. Who understood much more than others.

Jefferson: he wanted to therefore ending the oppression of Rome, but he was sincere, with a benevolent purpose.

Ventania: Yes. Many times he was taken to a small room where Jesus taught many truths to him. For they still had that feeling of revolt. Judas not. Judas had the feeling of understanding.

Jefferson: I imagine if you had a group of people and had one among them that said what he thought, even if it was against my thoughts, but if it were true and sincere, I appreciate it.

Ventania: “My dear, in the land of the blind men, who have eye is king. On land of ignorant, one who understands is called devil “

Jefferson: Wow! because sometimes causes envy and the person feels as tied hands,
there’s nothing she can do because they are knowledge that the spirit acquired
other incarnations. Can not match ...

Ventania: Often spirits are sick, ill. And these twelve apostles, I say again, thirteen were selected because they represented the human being in its evolution and involution: Quality and defects.
Jefferson: Our Lord!. so lets go:

But their spirits did not dare to stand before [him], except for Judas Iscariot. He was
able to stand before him, but he could not look him in the eyes, and he turned his face
away.
Judas [said] to him, “I know who you are and where you have come from. You are
from the immortal realm of Barbelo. And I am not worthy to utter the name of the one
who has sent you.”

Ventania: Barbelo or Sophia, which is a name given to gnostic God which is represented on a shape of a woman or through a peach tree, wherein each of the Avatars down on the to earth as a result. So, they would be the fruits of Barbelo.
I will advance a information for you, I know that if I was incarnated, I would be stoned Judas reincarnated in the personality of a man in Europe who separated and revolutionized Christianity, at the moment there was much persecution of Catholics to others. Sects to the other thoughts.

Jefferson: Who? Martin Luther?

Ventania: Catholic wanted the human was illiterate. As this time the Catholic was being influenced by a very low spirituality. Reptilian, yes, but from low vibration.
He was a great example, which separated the two regions: One with reason, and the other with love.
What is with reason, thinks’re the reason, still thinking that is the universal Roman Catholic.

Everything simply repeats. Just the names are changed. You’re understanding me?

Jefferson: Yes. I would like to ask if you’re talking about the Protestant Reformation?

Ventania: Yes, it has been revealed: Judas was Martin. It was revolutionary at all times that he reincarnated.

Jefferson: Look. Then today, sometimes a single person without any influence, might even have been one of the apostles of Christ, be in front of us and we do not recognize ?.

Ventania: Oftentimes. And writing important books. Especially during the Enlightenment period. This same Martin Lutheralways the Roman Catholic Church teaches to hate Judas. And now she continues, hating Martin Luther. People have died for it. Today, they are simply putting hot towels. And I fear, until times arriving. because those who are moved by emotion are multiplying as if they were rats.

Jefferson: Mr. Ventania, it seems at the moment that warmed conversation in that place and called Jesus, saying that Judas was able to get up … It seems that some paranormal phenomenon ‘happened in that room.

Ventania: Yes, Lucifer appeared. Did you know that Lucifer and Jesus are two parts of the same coin?

Jefferson: No.

Ventania: They are brothers. are all fruits of the same creator god. They are brothers. Lucifer does not have the intention to kill, steal and destroy. Who does this, are the children of the Earth, incarnated here. He analyzes. He is a scientist, he is a wise man.
So, basically Judas showed that Jesus had two sides: the side of the emotion and the side of reason. The two have to work together, there must be a balance.

Jefferson: If I were there I would be well seated.

Ventania: Yes. And I tell you one thing: Lucifer is beautiful. Lucifer has a black hair, like the sieve of a horse. His eyes are sparkling. His skin is white like snow. His teeth are an ivory necklace. He uses shades between black and sub-tones of gray. It is extremely beautiful. and at that time you have to understand, it is not only the white light that is good, but but the black light, too. They are two polarities necessary. When you ascend a candle, it will generate a shadow. Understand this allegory.

It has nothing of animal form in Lucifer. But if he wants he can take this animal form. He may appear on the form of any animal, because he predates the creation of you. He may mimic anything. Not only him but also Jesus.
Jesus often appears and you guys not realize … often asking for money, often asking for a charity, and you deny Him. It was not twice that he was denied. He is denied every day.
So, today one of you will betray me … every day, you are betraying this man.

Jefferson: He has the wisdom, The elevation both moral and scientific to materialize a physical body and do some apparition. Or are you saying that this is not possible?

Ventania: It is possible to shape any body, if you have reached an evolutionary spiritual degree. When Jesus approached to the cities, the poor felt his presence, nor were hungry and their illnesses were cured, because he is an enlightened being. 500 meters away, you already knew his coming.

Jefferson:

JESUS SPEAKS TO JUDAS PRIVATELY
Knowing that Judas was reflecting upon something that was exalted, Jesus said to him,“Step away from the others and I shall tell you the mysteries of the kingdom.

Ventania: Not everyone was prepared to listen to his words

Jefferson:

“It is possible for you to reach it, but you will grieve a great deal. [36] For someone else will
replace you, in order that the twelve [disciples] may again come to completion with their
god.”

And here God is written tiny.

Ventania: Yes. The individual god of each. The holy spirit that inhabits each. The mustard seed

Jefferson: A moment, let’s get this straight …

“It is possible for you to reach it, but you will grieve a great deal. For someone else will
replace you, in order that the twelve [disciples] may again come to completion with their
god.” ou seja: Reencarnation. Is it that?

Ventania: Yes.

Jefferson:

Judas said to him, “When will you tell me these things, and [when] will the great day of light dawn for the generation?”
But when he said this, Jesus left him.

Ventania: This issue is very delicate. Because, for some, that day light is coming now. For others, the darkness will be eternal. Until you learn the difference between love and reason. And get balance.

Jefferson:

Judas said to him, “When will you tell me these things, and [when] will the great day of light dawn for the generation?”

This question reminds me of one that did for Chico Xavier (the medium) when a view said, “Chico, have you been received or had any meeting
physical with a brother from another planet? (E.T). Chico Xavier looked at him and said, “Later, when we’re alone, I will speak in particular about.” But he, Chico never mentioned it again.

Ventania: You can not talk about certain issues, because, due to simplicity and poverty of the foundations of the crest churches, if you deny his death, denying the resurrection, and say that the sky does not give laps around the earth, you can let the crazy people. Imagine to say that a few hundred years later, that there is life out of here (alien life).
It is best to stay within its simplicity and very small belief.
So, the two cases are similar: Neither Judas nor the visitor from Chico Xavier had answers. So we have to wait and we wait.

Ventania: All this was to explain that there is life out of here. This here, the Earth is just a small colony. And very poorly maintained.

Jefferson: Caveirinha says that the planet earth is the great galactic slum.
But back to the topic. You sorry.

 

Jefferson:

Judas said to him, “When will you tell me these things, and [when] will the great day
of light dawn for the generation?”
But when he said this, Jesus left him.
SCENE 2: Jesus appears to the disciples again
The next morning, after this happened, Jesus [appeared] to his disciples again.

Entao Jesus nao ficava o tempo todo com eles?

Ventania: é normal entre os avatares aparecer em diferentes lugares, mesmo estando ocupando um corpo só. Ocupar dois lugares no espaco. Isto acontecia com todos os avatares anteriores. Porque, quando ele nao estava em corpo, ele estava em ensinamento. Aparecer significa simplesmente ascender aquela lampada da consciencia, nao e signififcando que ele teria que estar fisico.

Mas, a ideia surgiu e ele entendeu. Apartir do momento que ele entendeu, Jesus apareceu.

Jefferson:

They said to him, “Master, where did you go and what did you do when you left us?”
Jesus said to them, “I went to another great and holy generation.”
His disciples said to him, “Lord, what is the great generation that is superior to us and
holier than us, that is not now in these realms?”
When Jesus heard this, he laughed and said to them,

Jesus liked to laugh, it is not, mr. ventania?

Ventania: He told the stories laughing. His teachings were a pantominia. He was very happy, he was very cheerful. And this is what captivates.

A serious teacher loses his students. There is need for empathy.

Jefferson: You are serious, however people like to hear you.

Ventania: It’s because I say things too … I would not say serious, but doubtful. And I try to bring down the foundations of those who are on the wrong track.

Jefferson: Controversial. And it activates a certain curiosity and the people end up liking it.

Ventania: Jesus learned to be humorous in his teachings to the east of the monks. Re-orient yourself.

Jefferson:

“Why are you thinking in your
hearts about the strong and holy generation? [37] Truly [I] say to you, no one born [of]
this aeon will see that [generation], and no host of angels of the stars will rule over that generation, and no person of mortal birth can associate with it, because that generation does not come from […] which has become […]. The generation of people among [you] is from the generation of humanity […] power, which [… the] other powers […] by [which] you rule.”

When [his] disciples heard this, they each were troubled in spirit. They could not say a
word.

Ventania: A new generation can be born of crossing each other, these evolved beings who are reincarnated here: Indigo, Crystal. And it can generate a new rasse, since humans do not disobey, because they already destroyed in wars, inquisitions, and destruction on the earth plane.

Jefferson:

From what I’m hearing and reading, it seems that it is a fact that love activates the DNA characteristics for future achievements.

Ventania: To be evolved, you need to balance intelligence and love. It turns out that there is this imbalance today. This was planted by own church and also by eastern nations who wish not to Their people know nothing. It is blindness. (keeping in the ignorance)

Jefferson:

Another day Jesus came up to [them]. They said to [him], “Master, we have seen you in a [vision], for we have had great [dreams …] night […].”
[He said], “Why have [you … when] <you> have gone into hiding?” [38]

I was studying on this translater and tested whether the papyri actually dated from that time. And it was found that dated between 240-320 after Christ. Alone which passed through five hands before reaching the hands of the translator, who eventually spoiling, thus hampering translate.

Ventania: And see here: there are several other hidden. This version that you are giving me is one. There are several others who are hidden and kept the seven keys by the Catholic church. .

Jefferson: Well, let’s then focus on what can be understood this. They are only 7 pages, but so we will reap some knowledge with you. All right?

Ventania: Yes.

Jefferson:

THE DISCIPLES SEE THE TEMPLE AND DISCUSS IT
They [said, “We have seen] a great [house with a large] altar [in it, and] twelve
men—they are the priests, we would say—and a name; and a crowd of people is waiting at that altar, [until] the priests [… and receive] the offerings. [But] we kept waiting.”

They made many offerings.

Ventania: The number 12 represents the 12 tribes only. If you want to know who are the disciples, are 13, the magic number is 13.

It is interesting that they made their offerings to ask God for something, then a pigeon had to die. Or a lamb had to die. And these people criticized the Africans, who also did offerings of fruit and food. Because Africa, especially the African slave he has non food. So when he can offer something to God, he offers the best he has :, which is the food.

But see, the two visions: For the Jew of that era was beautiful kill, and today is ugly kill the one who is subjugated by Christianity. (sorry, the last part I did not understand very well. Miss Froggy)

Jefferson:The Romans had this habit of making an offering to the gods, then the Christians … They did not wanted to do and were martyred.

Ventania: It was the custom of that time.

 

[Jesus said], “What are [the priests] like?”
They [said, “Some …] two weeks; [some] sacrifice their own children, others their
wives, in praise [and] humility with each other; some sleep with men; some are involved in [slaughter]; some commit a multitude of sins and deeds of lawlessness. And the men who stand [before] the altar invoke your [name], [39] and in all the deeds of their deficiency, the sacrifices are brought to completion […].”
After they said this, they were quiet, for they were troubled.

Ventania: These sarcedotes represent humans. Actually represent the sarcedotes of various religions. And that if there is a heaven and hell, and I say now, it does not existWho exist inside this heaven and hell are these sarcedotes. It was they who wronged him, killed, robbed and destroyed. And this is simply a readaptation of what happens today.

The sarcedote passes for wise, but it’s dirtier than the one that dirty in the killings.

The people are much cleaner before God, before the creation, than the sarcedotes. For this reason the beast dwells within the churches.

Born one or other, That will be good, but it will be difficult to fight against this system.

Jefferson: You have been crucified together, but During the choice between Jesus and Barabbas, if it really happened, where you stood?

Ventania: I non participated in this trial. I was on a domestic sector and was taken to Golgotha.

I was non nailed to the wood. I was tied.

Jefferson: What did they decide that you deserve to be condemned on the cross? What did you do?

 

Ventania: At the time the Romans believed that stealing should be punished with death. It was the only time that I stole. In fact, I collected. Maybe I wanted to deliver it (30 denarii) at another time to Jesus or Judas. I just collected. And not only these coins. I came too soon after, in the room where the Last Supper was made and carried with me a beautiful chalicethat later was called the holy grail.

That is, I had a wooden chalice but possessed pandoro inside and was (sorry, didnt understand)? And I also caught with coins. So it was reason to be crucified. They needed public. It had to be 3 to give example.

Jefferson: Pontius Pilate’s wife really had a revelation that the name of Pontius Pilate would be cursed? And she even asked to non cruxify him?

Ventania: She believed in Jesus and Pontius Pilate also. Jesus chose Pilate, because he knew what would happen. Who condemned him was the people. Who condemned him, was the sarcedotes. Who condemns are the sarcedotes.

Jefferson: Also it is beautiful when the centurion goes at noon find Jesus and asks to save the sick child.

Ventania “Go Your faith has healed you.” Jesus also raised Talita. Not necessarily was dead, but they were in a coma. In fever.

Jefferson: Jesus touched everyone and faith has changed many people.

Ventania: He was doctor of doctors. You see, I am called a demon. My name inside this Umbanda cult is Eshu. I am regarded as a demon and I’m here defending Him.

Jefferson: It is, but the religious people will say that you are doing good to win the belief of the people.

Ventania: Yes, because I came to steal, kill and destroy.

Jefferson: You already know everything.

Ventania: I hear this every day. It is interesting that these churches on Friday they exorcises the devil, but this same demon return on Monday. What devil is this, is not it? What devil is this? Is it not of the head of people and sarcedotes? (heling men?

Jefferson:

JESUS OFFERS AN ALLEGORICAL INTERPRETATION OF THE VISION OF THE TEMPLE
Jesus said to them, “Why are you troubled? Truly I say to you, all the priests who stand
before that altar invoke my name. Again I say to you, my name has been written on this […] of the generations of the stars through the human generations. [And they] have planted trees without fruit, in my name, in a shameful manner.”
Jesus said to them, “Those you have seen receiving the offerings at the altar—that is
who you are. That is the god you serve, and you are those twelve men you have seen. The cattle you have seen brought for sacrifice are the many people you lead astray [40] before that altar. […] will stand and make use of my name in this way, and generations of the pious will remain loyal to him. After hi another man will stand there from [the fornicators], and another [will] stand there from the slayers of children, and another from those who sleep with men, and those who abstain, and the rest of the people of pollution and lawlessness and error, and those who say, ‘We are like angels’;

Ventania: When he says, “and another from Those who sleep with men,” he is referring to the Romans. This happens since the world began. There is a very well-known person who issued the Gospel and possessed a thorn in the flesh. And he was a Roman. This thorn in the flesh may represent, I will not say to not offend the tendency to sleep with men. So, sin is in the hand that writes the facts. It is based on human standards and put words in God’s mouth. People who write, they draw from a source and write what they want. So often are wise words. But too many times they are not.

Do you think that abhor so much before God, he would have allowed?

As I said, there are many versions of these papyri, which was not only one who talked about Jesus. In the future, you will know more.

Jefferson: Homosexuality is only an experience for the spirit. A proof like any other.

Ventania: But at the time it was regarded as a sin by the Hebrews. However, a normal practice among other people. He who lies down with another man is stealing, lying, and killing?

Jefferson: fornicating

Ventania: If he is fornicating, it is not, to me to judge. He is stealing, lying and destroying? No. He found the other side of his coin.

Jefferson: It is also the heteros can also furnicar.

Ventania: Very soon you will find also words that condemn witches. And I was a wizard.

Jefferson: I even found someone who called himself to be perfect. The most difficult, according to spiritism, to get rid of is pride.

Ventania: It is the first symptom of unbalanced. Great mediums, and great philosophers lie down with other men. And it happened. I’m not defending, just know it’s a hot topic among you guys. It is important to note that sin is in the heart of who does. Sin is to kill, steal and destroy. But, for many I am the demon that is promoting sin.

Jefferson: Who opens the horizons against cultural direction for issues of ambitionthat is the devil.

Ventania: They need so much of the devil. The devil does not know who has great employees. Now, I’ll give an example: If the priests and pastors, all these apostles … They say every man who offend the laws of God go to hell, is going be condemned and mistreated by the devil, that is the thing most incoherent I’ve ever heard.
Because if I am the enemy of God, to get to hell, I will be very well treated by the devil. And if by accident the devil is not the enemy of God? And if by chance are two sides of the same coin? And if by chance the enemies of God are the sarcedotes? Ie puts information on the person PERISPIRIT and she, after years and years of disembodiment, will suffer in hell that does not even exist? * (According to spiritism, hell is a mental, individual status of each one. You take your beliefs. It’s like drugs and you see that monsters do not exist. Are all the imaginations own mind)

Jefferson:

‘We are like angels’; they are the stars that bring everything to its conclusion. For to the human generations it has been said, ‘Look, God has received your sacrifice from the hands of a priest’—that is, a minister of error. But it is the Lord, the Lord of the universe, who commands, ‘On the last day they will be put to shame.’” [41]

Ventania: God does not take pleasure from the slaughter of any animal, regardless of whether it comes from the hand of a layman or a priest. God does not want death. God is life. He did not expect it.

Jefferson:

Jesus said [to them], “Stop sac[rificing …] which you have […] over the altar, since
they are over your stars and your angels and have already come to their conclusion there.
So let them be [ensnared] before you, and let them go [—about 15 lines missing—]
generations […]. A baker cannot feed all creation [42] under [heaven]. And […] to them […] and […] to us and […]

Ventania: He not fed with fish. He fed with the word of God. “Not only bread alone does man live, but by every word of God”. He spread his disciples among the crowd. People heard the words and hunger was sated. And after that, they left over 13 baskets that tell the apostles. Full of bread and fish. For the people they were full of God’s word. There was no multiplication of the bread.

Jefferson: There was no five flatbreads and two fishes?

Ventania: It was simply allegorical. It is the word of God That feeds. The person who comes to hear a teacher who will preachshe usually takes a potato a bread or something to eat later in the day. In addition to receiving the glory of God, you have yet to get a snack? (Sarcasmus). This was the representation of the fear of Peter. It was Peter who said .: The people are hungry. Who always said no, it was Peter. Peter was the stumbling block. He was a coward. But he represented humanity. She, humanity has this feature.

Jefferson: One version says that someone tells Judas: – Why are you worried about getting the gun? If Jesus can multiply both pao, both fish … If he wants to enter an army, he can multiply a lot of weapon.

Ventania: The proof that he did non this multiplication. He made the multiplication of awareness. He made people begin to understand the next and not go to war. Instead of creating weapons.

Jefferson: Even today we were no able to understand this.

Ventania: Other avatars, like Krishna for example at battle of Kurukshetra, asket to arjuna if he wanted an army next to him or simply Krishna company. And he accepted Krishna company. The arrows were thrown about Arjuna, Krishna threw the front, so They protected each other.

Therefore, when the being is Illuminated the gun is unnecessary. The idea of spirituality is to light with the knowledge of God, or Goddess called Barbalo, which is at the center of this universe. . .

Jefferson: It must have been very hard for Jesus, see all as children, all as brothers, love the neighbor unconditionally and having to witness the clashes, one wanting to annihilate the other.

Ventania: Yeah. Did you finished your manuscript?

Jefferson: It’s ending.

Jesus said to them, “Stop struggling with me. Each of you has his own star, and every[body—about 17 lines missing—] [43] in […] who has come [… spring] for the tree […] of this aeon […] for a time […] but he has come to water God’s paradise, and the [generation] that will last, because [he] will not defile the [walk of life of] that generation, but […] for all eternity.”
JUDAS ASKS JESUS ABOUT THAT GENERATION AND HUMAN GENERATIONS
Judas said to [him, “Rabb]i, what kind of fruit does this generation produce?”
Jesus said, “The souls of every human generation will die. When these people,
however, have completed the time of the kingdom and the spirit leaves them, their bodies will die but their souls will be alive, and they will be taken up.”
Judas said, “And what will the rest of the human generations do?”
Jesus said, “It is impossible [44] to sow seed on [rock] and harvest its fruit. [This] is
also the way […] the [defiled] generation […] and corruptible Sophia […] the hand that has created mortal people, so that their souls go up to the eternal realms above. [Truly] I say to you, […] angel […] power will be able to see that […] these to whom […] holy generations […].”
After Jesus said this, he departed.

Jefferson: Jesus left, did not stood still in one place.
Ventania: It is a very old language, Nazarene means traveler.

Jefferson:

SCENE 3: Judas recounts a vision and Jesus responds
Judas said, “Master, as you have listened to all of them, now also listen to me. For I have seen a great vision.”
When Jesus heard this, he laughed and said to him, “You thirteenth spirit, why do you
try so hard? But speak up, and I shall bear with you.”
Judas said to him, “In the vision I saw myself as the twelve disciples were stoning me
and [45] persecuting [me severely]. And I also came to the place where […] after you. I
saw [a house …], and my eyes could not [comprehend] its size. Great people were
surrounding it, and that house <had> a roof of greenery, and in the middle of the house was [a crowd—two lines missing—], saying, ‘Master, take me in along with these people.’”

Jefferson: Jesus interpreted their dreams. It was a vision like close the eye and have an imagination.

Ventania: They were as realistic visions. It was like an epiphany.

Jefferson: I just remember what you said in other dialogues “I pity the one who read only one book”

Ventania: Yeah. I feel sorry and compassion.

Jefferson:

SCENE 3: Judas recounts a vision and Jesus responds
Judas said, “Master, as you have listened to all of them, now also listen to me. For I have seen a great vision.”
When Jesus heard this, he laughed and said to him, “You thirteenth spirit, why do you
try so hard? But speak up, and I shall bear with you.”
Judas said to him, “In the vision I saw myself as the twelve disciples were stoning me
and [45] persecuting [me severely]. And I also came to the place where […] after you. I
saw [a house …], and my eyes could not [comprehend] its size. Great people were
surrounding it, and that house <had> a roof of greenery, and in the middle of the house was [a crowd—two lines missing—], saying, ‘Master, take me in along with these people.’”

Ventania: Who is the star that turned?

Jefferson: I did not understand this part.

Ventania: Who is the morning star? Lucifer. Lucifer is the morning star. He lives and co-create on the planet Venus. When he says: “Your star turned him aside” means “. You’re leaving of being love to be reason” It has to be balanced. You should rebalance.

Jefferson:

JUDAS ASKS ABOUT HIS OWN FATE
Judas said, “Master, could it be that my seed is under the control of the rulers?”
Jesus answered and said to him, “Come, that I [—two lines missing—], but that you
will grieve much when you see the kingdom and all its generation.”
When he heard this, Judas said to him, “What good is it that I have received it? For
you have set me apart for that generation.”
Jesus answered and said, “You will become the thirteenth, and you will be cursed by
the other generations—and you will come to rule over them. In the last days they will
curse your ascent [47] to the holy [generation].”

Ventania: He was cursed, stomped, excoriated. But it was he responsible for the Chamber to bring true Christianity, ending the barbarities that remade church.

Jefferson:

JESUS TEACHES JUDAS ABOUT COSMOLOGY: THE SPIRIT AND THE SELF-GENERATED
Jesus said, “[Come], that I may teach you about [secrets] no person [has] ever seen. For there exists a great and boundless realm, whose extent no generation of angels has seen, [in which] there is [a] great invisible [Spirit], which no eye of an angel has ever seen, no thought of the heart has ever comprehended, and it was never called by any name.
“And a luminous cloud appeared there. He said, ‘Let an angel come into being as my
attendant.’
“A great angel, the enlightened divine Self-Generated, emerged from the cloud.
Because of him, four other angels came into being from another cloud, and they became attendants for the angelic Self-Generated. The Self-Generated said, [48] ‘Let […] come into being […],’ and it came into being […]. And he [created] the first luminary to reign over him. He said, ‘Let angels come into being to serve [him],’ and myriads without number came into being. He said, ‘[Let] an enlightened aeon come into being,’ and he came into being. He created the second luminary [to] reign over him, together with myriads of angels without number, to offer service. That is how he created the rest of the enlightened aeons. He made them reign over them, and he created for them myriads of angels without number, to assist them.

Jefferson: It means: the knowledge that today, in fact, He is speaking of God, or not? of creation

Ventania: These angels that you refer are the holy spirit, which is divided into several personalities and is also interdimensional beings who are also seen as angels. These stars are the two sides of the coin: One refers to the devil as the morning star. And Pedro was referring to Jesus as the morning star. Pharaoh is the morning star. So are the lights, are the masters. Are the wise.

Jefferson:

ADAMAS AND THE LUMINARIES

I do not know why, but this name is not strange.

Ventania: It refers to the Adamic Race.

Jefferson: Also sumo-priest of the city of Telos.

Ventania: Yes Below the hill Chaster..

Jefferson: Is there really? Perhaps, when we get the fourth density, they’re going to emerge (manifest)?

Ventania: Yes. Soon they will manifest. At this time I am working with this psychic apparatus (medium Fernando Parada), and I’m channeling a manuscript actually a book that will be left for posterity, where I talk about it. For example, my experience also with these in-earthly beings. Because I also participate in the central kingdom.

Jefferson: You now lives in spirit?

Ventania: Yes. I Shall not reincarnate again.

 

Jefferson:

“Adamas was in the first luminous cloud that no angel has ever seen among all those
called ‘God.’ He [49] […] that […] the image […] and after the likeness of [this] angel.
He made the incorruptible [generation] of Seth appear […] the twelve […] the twentyfour
[…]. He made seventy-two luminaries appear in the incorruptible generation, in
accordance with the will of the Spirit. The seventy-two luminaries themselves made three hundred sixty luminaries appear in the incorruptible generation, in accordance with the will of the Spirit, that their number should be five for each.

Jefferson: I’m thinking of jumping, since your time is short, right?

Ventania: I believe that this study can be done on another occasion, because many people are not prepared to understand what these luminarias, and the generations of Cain and Abel and Seth. It may be necessary to stop for now. We’ll talk another time on this. It is complex and not everyone is prepared.

Jefferson: So’ll skip these complex parts of the cosmos and symbology. Thus we arrive at the end.

THE COSMOS, CHAOS, AND THE UNDERWORLD
“The multitude of those immortals is called the cosmos— that is, perdition—by the
Father and the seventy-two luminaries who are with the Self-Generated and his seventytwo aeons. In him the first human appeared with his incorruptible powers.

Which means seventy-two?

Ventania: They are the amounts of geniuses. The amounts of the names of God and quantity of angels.

Jefferson:

THE CREATION OF HUMANITY
“Then Saklas said to his angels, ‘Let us create a human being after the likeness and after the image.’ They fashioned Adam and his wife Eve, who is called, in the cloud, Zoe. For by this name all the generations seek the man, and each of them calls the woman by these names. Now, Sakla did not [53] com[mand …] except […] the gene[rations …] this […].
And the [ruler] said to Adam, ‘You shall live long, with your children.’”

He is referring to Genesis?

Ventania: He’s talking to, who formed mankind was Saklas. And Saklas is not the true God. It is the false god. It is God that meets their demands and not the God-father of Jesus. It is not Sophia. Study the Cathars and you know, at what point is worshiped the true God and God is the own demon.

Jefferson:

JUDAS ASKS ABOUT THE DESTINY OF ADAM AND HUMANITY
Judas said to Jesus, “[What] is the long duration of time that the human being will live?”
Jesus said, “Why are you wondering about this, that Adam, with his generation, has lived his span of life in the place where he has received his kingdom, with longevity with his ruler?”
Judas said to Jesus, “Does the human spirit die?”
Jesus said, “This is why God ordered Michael to give the spirits of people to them as a
loan, so that they might offer service, but the Great One ordered Gabriel to grant spirits to the great generation with no ruler over it—that is, the spirit and the soul. Therefore, the [rest] of the souls [54] [—one line missing—].

Ventania: You want having only one Adam and Eve. But are genetic mixes and emerged several of them. And they generated several of their races.

Jefferson: And the angels Gabriel and Michael even exist? Archangels?

Ventania: They are the arms of God. There are archangels. There are high beings. They are part of this Holy Spirit. (Collegiate)

Jefferson:

JESUS DISCUSSES THE DESTRUCTION OF THE WICKED WITH JUDAS AND OTHERS
“[…] light [—nearly two lines missing—] around […] let […] spirit [that is] within you dwell in this [flesh] among the generations of angels. But God caused knowledge to be [given] to Adam and those with him, so that the kings of chaos and the underworld might not lord it over them.”

If you have knowledge, you can be controlled.

Ventania: If you have knowledge, you can also not be controlled. That’s what happened to Judas. He had the knowledge. He was the star diverted. He had the notion, cold, what was the truth. So he retorted.

Jefferson:

Judas said to Jesus, “So what will those generations do?”
Jesus said, “Truly I say to you, for all of them the stars bring matters to completion.
When Saklas completes the span of time assigned for him, their first star will appear with the generations, and they will finish what they said they would do.

Jefferson: Saklas had a designated time.

Ventania: It is the demonic representation governing humanity.

(According to the book “The path of Light” the author Emmanuel, psychographic by the medium Francisco Xavier, Jesus met with the Christs of the galaxy and asked for a deadline for Humanity, which will be completed in 2019. If in this time, the earth is not destroyed by atomic war, then we will pass to the world of regeneration world, a more peaceful and happy world, where there will be peace …)

Ventania: Many beings are working so there is a time of grace, to avoid complete destruction. While each of you buys a material object and writes: “God gave me” often could write: “Saklas which gave me.” For it is the God of this world that is giving you. And not the God-father of Jesus.

Jefferson: So it seems that there is a mask “Saklas”, as if the mind preventing access to the spirit. (Ego)

Ventania: Saklas is (didn’t understand, sorry) that makes the human being wrong. And the human being likes to make mistakes. He likes the material. He likes to cheat, steal, kill and destroy. And like always condemn. Wrong is always the other, never himself.

Jefferson:

Then they will fornicate in my name and slay their children [55] and they will […] and [—about six and a half lines missing—] my name, and he will […] your star over the [thir]teenth aeon.”
After that Jesus [laughed].
[Judas said], “Master, [why are you laughing at us]?”
[Jesus] answered [and said], “I am not laughing [at you] but at the error of the stars, because these six stars wander about with these five combatants, and they all will be destroyed along with their creatures.”

Jefferson: I find pretty, Jesus laughing. In the other Gospels not mention that he was smiling.

Ventania: The Gospel of Judas is more closest to reality. He does not have the coolness that the human being deposited. They made him a serious man. Jesus was happy. Be happy you too. I’ll give you some advice: Do as Francis of Assisi. When he was inside the church, and the cross spoke to him, the cross said, “My house is destroyed.
Go and rebuild my church. “And that was what he did.

So I say to every one: Build this church inside of you, through the teaching of simplicity.

Human beings have difficulty touching in what is disgusting. Think of Francis of Assisi who once saw a leper who went cold, ringing a bell. He came in his direction, and donated him his own garments. He covered the leper and kiss his face.

So kiss your lepers and stop philosophizing upon allegories.

Jefferson:

[Judas said], “Master, [why are you laughing at us]?”
[Jesus] answered [and said], “I am not laughing [at you] but at the error of the stars, because these six stars wander about with these five combatants, and they all will be destroyed along with their creatures.”

Ventania: The stars represent other worlds where beings are not necessarily constituted of carbon. Its neighboring planets. In another moment I’ll talk to you about the prophecies of Nostradamus.

Jefferson: Oh, you’re committing to return to talk to me? Is good.

Ventania: So, you will commit to reading my story, so it’s publishedso you will know the teaching that I want to leave on the earth.

Jefferson:

JESUS SPEAKS OF THOSE WHO ARE BAPTIZED, AND JUDAS’S BETRAYAL
Judas said to Jesus, “Look, what will those who have been baptized in your name do?”
Jesus said, “Truly I say [to you], this baptism [56] […] my name [—about nine lines
missing—] to me. Truly [I] say to you, Judas, [those who] offer sacrifices to Saklas […]
God [—three lines missing—] everything that is evil.

Ventania:Baptism means to accept the truthconsciously. Contrary to what the Catholic church did, that washed the head of babies and claiming to be baptized. This child grew and paid his taxes to the church. Unlike the Cathar teaching, in which man must receive baptism consciously. In other words, with water or not. Be baptized in spirit and conscious intelligence, coolness and love. This is the true baptism.

Jefferson: Why Jesus always said, Verily I say unto you, or truly?

Ventania: So that there is not doubt. Because there was much lie within the allegories. So, what he said was the truth.

Jefferson:

“But you will exceed all of them. For you will sacrifice the man that clothes me.

Ventania: He is saying that Judas should deliver, so he go to the cross. Sacrifice does not mean death. He would be sacrificed, to be reborn. It’s like the number of card 12 in taro. The hanged. He is sacrificing, but is not dead. I really like this card because it is a representation of Jesus.

Jefferson:

Already your horn has been raised, your wrath has been kindled, your star has shown brightly, and your heart has […]. [57]

Ventania: The horn is the connection with the planet Venus. You see, all the time, Jesus mentions Venus. Venus is also represented by a bull. He is pointing to the sky, saying: Your connection with the sky, with the morning star, have made you wise.

“Truly […] your last […] become [—about two and a half lines missing—], grieve
[—about two lines missing—] the ruler, since he will be destroyed. And then the image of the great generation of Adam will be exalted, for prior to heaven, earth, and the angels, that generation, which is from the eternal realms, exists. Look, you have been told everything. Lift up your eyes and look at the cloud and the light within it and the stars surrounding it. The star that leads the way is your star.”

Jefferson: It seems that he is referring to the signs.

Ventania: He keeps referring to Venus. Venus is the monitor of this plan.

 

Judas lifted up his eyes and saw the luminous cloud, and he entered it. Those standing
on the ground heard a voice coming from the cloud, saying, [58] […] great generation
[…] … image […] [—about five lines missing—].

Jefferson: This is extraterrestrial.

Ventania: As you had mentioned angels, was already talking about it. And I can give examples of those who have in their back those myriads of fumes in the form of rainbow, which are like wings actually are beings from *** Arthurus.

Those standing
on the ground heard a voice coming from the cloud, saying, [58] […] great generation
[…] … image […] [—about five lines missing—].
CONCLUSION: JUDAS BETRAYS JESUS
[…] Their high priests murmured because [he] had gone into the guest room for his
prayer. But some scribes were there watching carefully in order to arrest him during the prayer, for they were afraid of the people, since he was regarded by all as a prophet.
They approached Judas and said to him, “What are you doing here? You are Jesus’
disciple.”
Judas answered them as they wished. And he received some money and handed him over to them.

Jefferson: Do you think there was change in this gospel too?

Ventania: Yes. Human beings need to blame someone.
  He did not need of the money.
And if he needed money to bury his mother, he would talk to Jesus and use the money of the common purse of the group. Therefore, in times of despair, Judas was trying to negotiate because it was losing everything in his life. And it would be a father. Losing a mother and a child about to be born. These are informations that you guys do not have, but soon you will know what will happen.

Jefferson: So, at least in this version of this gospel, not say much Judas’s life. And in the end, still had the alteration, that not told the same story which you claim to have been real.

Ventania:About the life of Judas, who spoke most about was me. But there are several versions. This is an allegorical version. But I can say this, it will cause a lot of doubt. Ifrenezi.

A great medium that will be responsible for the divulgation of the spiritualist doctrine is the fruit of friendship between Judas and Jesus.

Jefferson: Just a moment. Please repeat. I could not understand.

Ventania: A great medium that will be responsible for the divulgation of the spiritualist doctrine is the fruit of friendship between Judas and Jesus. Descents.

Jefferson: Our mother. So, we begin to finalize the study of Judas gospel with some considerations.

The first: If you were to set Judas, what kind of man was he? Did someone fighting the government and oppression, so that the people’s interests were taken into account or how you define it?

Ventania: It would be a great ruler. Just. Just.

Jefferson: Of course. And after that incarnation, Judas threw himself committed suicide?

Ventania: No. He will not be threw. He did not hang himself. He retired to a fortress Essene. A gospel says one thing. The other says another. So it’s a lie.

Jefferson: So he did not kill himself? It was not suicide?

Ventania: No. There was no need to commit suicide. Instead, he had to write. His scriptures are stored. One day it will be revealed.

Jefferson: It is true that he was the reincarnation of Joan of Arc?

Ventania: He was much more than that. To the respect the spirit of Joan of Arc at the moment does not suit me, to disclose, because there is a medium who works with her. So many people shall come, bringing informations that may be right or wrong.

But I can say that Joana Darc is one of the spirits who was present among the 13 apostles. Among the 13 apostles.

Jefferson: So, Judas was his favorite.

Ventania: Yes He, Andrew and Mary of Migdal..

Jefferson: Why?

Ventania: Intelligence, power, communication ability. And assimilation.

Jefferson: What is the message of the true story of Judas that can be passed to us today and may have utility and importance for us?

Ventania: In a few words?

Jefferson: yes.

Ventania: Humanity needs to blame someone. Even if this person is good. Even if this person is a lamb. Thereforeshe needs to blame. His teaching is: learned, stored wrote. And in the next, reincarnations, he will do great things.

It is not always possible to accomplish on earth all you want. Jesus came from the east and tried to spread the knowledge among his. And today many misrepresent it.

It will be necessary for many, many incarnations that human beings come out of neanderthal state, which still insists on staying.

The word that I see in Jesus: The Liberator. So that’s it.

Jefferson: What is the interaction between Jesus and Judas and this plot because it certainly has a message behind it all?

Ventania: They were dear friends. He was like a real brother. Even they were physically alike. So, everything there is a reason to happen. All those who were involved, reincarnated and had a relevant importance in the great moments of humanity.

And do not think that Judas was the spirit of Hitler, because it is not.

Jefferson: Finalizing. Why you wanted to do this study of the Gospel of Judas with me?

Ventania: To end the hypocrisy of people find that the culprit is always the others and not herself.

When you say that there is a traitor, a demon, a destroyer … Look at yourself. Then you will see all these defects in itself. So, attained enlightenment.

Jefferson: It’s a simple message, direct and that many people do not give importance but is of great importance.

Ventania: Empty your cup to receive this knowledge. I would say more, empty your graau and you will receive. Love your neighbor as yourself, and obey it. And do not to the Saklas. Not one that will give you material things. Not one who will give you 30 denarii.

Because there’re selling Jesus every day by thousands of denarii. Do not be the moneychangers from the temple.

This is my goodbye. Eshu Ventania will leave.

Jefferson: Thanks God.

 

Medium Fernando Parada: Hello Jefferson.

Jefferson: Mr. Fernando Parada?

Medium Fernando Parada: Hi, how are you? What time is it? Wow, we stayed two hours and forty.

Jefferson: How are you feeling now after the merger?

Medium Fernando Parada:

It is as if he had drained my head, tight and taken everything. Tired. It is very tiring. He is very heavy. While he is light, h is heavy. It’s a strange thing. He is very mental-As Father Joaquim works giving passes and talking, he is very philosophical and very mental. I think he ends up with my neurones.

Jefferson: I thank once again to participate and interact, intermediating a dialogue with the spirits that you do willingly and charity.

Medium Fernando Parada: I thank you. When you need, I’ll be at the disposal. we will do fondly.

Jefferson: Thanks to God.

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Photo: Comfreak-51581 www.pixabay.com

References:

http://www.nationalgeographic.com/lostgospel/_pdf/CopticGospelOfJudas.pdfhttp://www.nationalgeographic.com/lostgospel/_pdf/GospelofJudas.pdf

Judas Iscariot & the Good Thief

For now I ask: How many million denarii you sell Jesus every day through your crosses, saints, bibles? I see that you guys make disclosures through means did not existed in the past. You guys sell even a kingdom in heaven. So, you guys sell Jesus daily by millions of dinars.
Then, 30 denarii was nothing, means anything. For me yes. I was a merchant.
I believe I deserved my punishment. But by my recognition, I learned at that time. Exu Ventania

 

Photo: Miss Froggy – Germany 2013

Spirit: Exu Ventania

Medium: Fernando Parada Website: http://marcelamad.wix.com/mahamantra

Reporter: Jefferson Viscardi Website: http://www.dialogocomosespiritos.com

Youtube: https://youtu.be/Ufo5FZTJYOI

Date of Publication: 26.10.2015

Starting:

Jefferson: Good morning.

Ventania: Which is the subject of today, young man?

Jefferson: We meet again to talk about the Gospel of Judas

Ventania: there are some scriptures that were found indeed, but there are also others who are hidden through the Universal Catholic Church keeping secret. Summarizing, paper accepts anything. So, we shall use the good sense to understand the history of this historic Judas.

The first question I do: Who was the guilty one for Jesus death?

Jefferson: The guilty one for his death … Considering that spiritism teach us, so it was already planned. Then, he programmed before reincarnating and the rest was a little theater.

Ventania: hmmm, ok. and, in the classroom of a college, if one of you does something wrong, and the teacher arrives and asks “who did that?” , does someone answer?

Jefferson: Usually no one says anything.

Ventania: Then they needed a culprit. ie, the human being had to always blame someone for something. Very well, was all settled, and this pseudo-death, for there is no resurrection, was told by many, I believe twelve gospels. And each one says something. In some they had some coincidences, and many have been molded.

Therefore, the role of Jesus was to come and teach, and he learned somewhere. If you want to learn something, seek the Orient. Reorient yourself, then you gonna learn.

Before talking about his death, I would like to talk about *sudarium.

*Note: (The Sudarium of Oviedo, or Shroud of Oviedo, is a bloodstained piece of cloth is claimed by some to be the cloth wrapped around the head of Jesus Christ after he died)

Many people say it is fake, while many other say it is a piece of linen from the 13 century, others say the 16th century. Others say it has patches and that is a fact. But the pollen, where it was plotted it is present, through tools, which can be verified. So it’s veracious.

Now I ask: After removal from the cross, he was carried by Joseph of Arimathea and his foremen to the sepulcher, was properly cleaned, was purified with a lot of oil, a lot of myrrh, aloes, and finally wrapped in that tissue.

And now I ask: Do you ever seen a picture of that tissue?

Jefferson: Yes, I did.

Ventania: So he is with crossed arms in front. But it is written that no bones were broken. And if he was on the cross, when a person dies, there is the phenomenon called *rigor mortis, and a person is in the position that she died. In other words, the deceased would have been taken with opened arms. It was common at the time to break the arms, but it is written that was not broken. 

Note: (Rigor death normally appears around two hours after the person passed away. Normally, between eight to twelve hours the body is completely stiff. Please take a look at the link: http://www.exploreforensics.co.uk/rigor-mortis-and-lividity.html)

Ventania continues: Another detail in this sudarium: I gonna talk in a very cold way: Defunct do not sweat.  Defunct do not bleed. Have passed a few hours and you still clean and place the dead man in linen and was also marked, as if it were a film the marks of a blood flowing… So he was alive.

So if Judas killed himself because of Jesus’ death, this death was in vain.

Now, let´s talk about Judas. The name Judas is a national name,like Italo, Frank, Germano and so on, it brings the weight of his nation. And this same Judas was in favor of a free Judea from the hands of Rome, knowledgeable of Judaism, a very believer in his faith and a Sicarius. What is Sicarii? Sicar means knife.

Note: (an extremist splinter group of the Jewish Zealots, who fought the Roman occupation of Judea in an attempt to expel the Romans and their partisans from the area. The Sicarii carried sicae, or small daggers, concealed in their cloaks, hence their name. At public gatherings, they pulled out these daggers to attack Romans or Roman sympathizers, blending into the crowd after the deed to escape detection. They were one of the earliest forms of an organized assassination, predating the Middle Eastern) Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sicarii

Ventania continues: It was normal at that time men emerge among the crowd and cut off jugular vein of the Romans, then they disappeared into the crowd. Taking the proper proportions, it would be called a terrorism at that time. Then the people were afraid of sicars. I mean, the Roman people.

So well. Someone provides these Sicarii. Jesus owned in his environment two men who were knife carriers: One was Simon and the other was Judas. So, they were always prepared, even for battle, even to a limited proportion. Very well…

A good Jew would never hang (hang-up), it is the most shameful death for these people. So he did not hanged himself. Of the four Gospels, one says that he hanged himself and the other says he threw himself off a cliff, thus spreading the entrails by the soil.

Since they have to be facsimile of each other and, of the four, two bring an information, so we have a *half-truth.

Note: (if they contradict each other, it’s because someone is lying)

So he did not committed suicide. Another fact was when he have been called by Sanhedrin to talk to the priests, in which they wished the departure of Jesus from Jerusalem. Which reason? Rome allowed the worship of Jews and tolerated the religion, since no man assumed the king post, because kind, only Cesar could be.

When Jesus cames into Jerusalem on a Palm Sunday, sitting on a donkey and people bow, throwing their branches in front of his path, saying “my king”, it was giving the alert to Rome:”A man who calls himself King of the Jews”

The rule of the time was: “Do not allow a king or you guys shall suffer.”  hmmm

Judas is called by the priests to try to take Jesus from Jerusalem. Priests at that time is the equivalent to today’s politicians

These sarcedotes were very rich. They were owners of the stalls, the Hawkers and they were responsible for all trade. They enriched themselves and were priests, as it would  be repeated in many churches of the future.

They tried to deal with Judas a value of thirty denarii, but Judas did not need to accept these thirty denarii, for he was the treasurer of the group. He did not need of that.

He refused and thirty denarii were thrown to the ground. Damned money.

When Judas went to garden of gethsemane to warn Jesus about the betrayal, the guards followed him.

And at that moment Jesus was arrested.

Everybody were desperate, including Peter, getting desperate, was the first one to disappear and hid, even after the trial . And the rooster crows, and he denied. Later he becames the first Pope.

By chance, did Jesus has left a pope on Earth?

Jefferson: No, Lord.

Ventania: Therefore, he left no descendant.

They stole his words and formed the universal Catholic Church. Many do not know the meaning of Catholic.

Note: (by Wikipedia: universal or of general interest, liberal, having broad interests, or wide sympathies, inclusive, inviting and containing strong evangelism.)

Ventania continues: And that belief becames mandatory. And poor fellow of those who renege that religion.

So Judas, witnessing all the trap, the unfair trial, went into an Essene fortress.

And  Jesus was also Essene. Also Joseph of Arimathea were Essene, as well as one of the soldiers too. Therefore,

Therefore, he stayed until high age, writing, meditating and praying

Don´t think that the apostles did not have their wives. They had! Peter had not any, but Judas had. tat this time, he left a pregnant woman, in which she gave birth to a child named Benjamin, as well as the tradition says that a  girl  coming from Egypt, slave was taken care of by Joseph of Arimathea, because she took care of Jesus family, in which she was sent to the sea and survived, reaching gaul. A girl named Sarah.

If you desires a perfection of an animal, a horse for example… A wild horse, how you will improve the breed it? How to transform in an Arabian mangalarga? genetic mixtures. Exactly that is what happened…. Up to six generations, after Sarah’s children in Illuminism period, people still had in their genetic code the presence of his sacred blood.

Therefore, the blood left at the cross, what was recorded on the sudarium are not sacred but the positive energy, high of love, peace, union which brought in his existence. Because Jesus is a being that exists, much before the creation of this world, a very old Spirit.

With all these stories, that Judas is guilty, it’s just that the people do not blame themself, because they need a thief, they need a culprit. The church could create all its versions, always looking for a thiefBut, pay Attention, I had not revealed, but I’ve been there and lived in the Galilean. I was a merchant in Tiberias see and had direct contact with  Andrew, Mary Magdalene and once I received Judas in my house at night. And the vision he had was a free Judaism, because at the time there was no Christianity, the new religion that would plant only love, no harm to anything or anyone. A religion that preached that all beings would have to be happy.

By the fact that he betrayed the Sanhedrin priest, he was chased and impeached, therefore he was always hidden.

He received all knowledge from Jesus. As you can see, that in paintings and writings, he leans on Jesus’ breast.  When someone bends to the chest, it’s because he’s listening important words.

So when you say that the beloved apostle was Simon Peter , pay attention, I will give three names of  much loved apostles: Andrew, Simon brother, Mary Magdalene which the name comes from Migdal and means Tower. So, she was powerful and also Judas Iscariot. The Iscariot word is due to its origin from the town where he came from.

So they formed an initial Group and discussed on the most more important subjects. They were a kind of, what  in the future would be called a Christianity.

I was present there, but only once I said a phrase to Jesus.

And another thing I would like to make very
clear: This Catholic church incenses her saints, sanctify  and beatifies the persons, and now I come with a new Version.

Everything in life is very dynamic. No one is elevated to one committee of saints and never return to Earth. Even if there are some figures that have not seen yet, but Judas reincarnated on earth, Mary Magdalene also, like Barabbas, Dismas… Many others were reincarnated. Therefore to say they are holy, pure and did not come down to earth it’s fake. Therefore, there is not a day when all will be judged, but the individual judgment. Each is judged by his actions, according to the conscience of himself. If he believes in a Hell, in a raging fire, so it will be soon after his death.

There are versions of other more modern books after this Spiritism Religion, that great mediums have seen Judas suffering in hell. Then now I say that, there are many mediuns who drank of the holy mother church fountains, before they became spiritist, and some informations are like that noise.
Such data can be given through the reveries, as being true. But, many times  they are not.    It have been told, that he was  suffering. No,  because he did nothing wrong.

Note: (numerous mediums, who were priests of the Catholic Church , before reincarnating and knowledge of the spiritualist doctrine, and some information that were trapped in subconscious, carrying on their PERISPIRIT. As Buddha told: You are, what you think)

Ventania continues: I think I’ve said enough. Now, if you want, you can make your questions.

Jefferson: Lord Ventania, you said:  I have been there once only and said a phrase to Jesus?

Ventania: Yes.

Jefferson: How it was? Please explain better this passage.

Ventania: The information about the Good News of Jesus reached me through what you call as gossip, and I liked to know… Andrew, who was a friend of mine, invited me all the time to follow Jesus. I never accepted. I was a merchant, because I wanted to enrich.

When he was convicted, the thirty denarii fell on the ground, I was next to the Sanhedrin.

When they left the place, both the priests and Judas, I took the thirty denarii.
Soon after, I was caught by Roman soldiers, who claimed to be impossible a merchant port thirty denarii of the daily wage. Then,  I was sentenced to the cross, next to him.

You are praying for saints, thinking that they are on the heaven… And now I say: I am an Eshu in the Umbanda, but I was the first saint to be canonized. Because, while everybody criticized

While the other thief made sneers of him, I said… He blesses those making him harm, and the only thing I told was: “Remember me when you come into your kingdom”.

At that moment he answered me: ” Truly, truly I tell you that today will be with me in my father’s kingdom.”  Here is the proof of the existence of life on the other side.

But to be today at his father’s kingdom, not means that both would be together, but in teaching. The teaching of Jesus is more important than the own Christ. So he took the pardon to the spiritual kingdom

I was Dismas, the good thief. And today I‘m trying to convince people that, these cathedrals with my name St. Dismas, St. Dismas“… I was only a crucified dealer who recognized this man . And many others like me are also reincarnated. And many others are also trying to bring a new doctrine to you.

There is a great medium that is a descendant of the sacred blood. And this great medium wrote great scriptures.

Another important question. Many deny the reincarnation. For you see, the prophet Elijah‘s own John the Baptist. This is written. Only don´t see, those who do not want to see! And he came many other times. He came as philosopher, then as a great medium, and before that, he was a great Christ’s apprentice: Francis of Assisi.

So, the prophet Elias and Francis of Assisi belong to the same original monad. For what Francis planted on earth is the purest teaching of the sweet words from Christ. Maybe after Christ he is the holiest. But he do not need a Catholic church to sanctify him, but life itself sanctifies him. 

There are actions of saints, which grow within the church gardens. Is this church cursed? Yes, but in those gardens also are born good flowers. Beautiful flowers are born until the middle of manure. Hence, there are great teachings inside the Catholic Church.

Jefferson: Going to the time, where Judas has received the money … Some people say that, for he was a sentimental moment where he had just lost his mother, in which he would like to have introduced to Jesus, but were not anymore.
And he was angry because Jesus did not want to become the king,.
Then Caiaphas said: “Look, if you‘re up there and convince him, here you have the money to bury your motherbut, also, if you persuade him, I’ll be on the side of you and we will get rid ourselves from Rome. What you have tell about that?

Ventania: You know the 40 days Jesus spent in the wilderness?

The same thing happened to Judas.
He suffered the death of the mother? Yes. He suffered for many losses and he suffered because he knew that in that environment, he could not create his firstborn. His wife was pregnant.
He could be easily bought, but why be purchased, if he was responsible for the common purse? He does not need that money. And there is talk in both thirty denarii, simply, again, perhaps to explain a prophecy of Zechariah ….
It have been said that he has been sold for 30 denarii.


For now I ask: How many million denarii you sell Jesus every day through your crosses, saints, bibles? I see that you guys make disclosures through means did not existed in the past. You guys sell even a kingdom in heaven. So, you guys sell Jesus daily by millions of dinars.
Then, 30 denarii was not anything. For me yes. I was a merchant.
I believe I deserved my punishment. But by my recognition, I learned at that time.

Jefferson: Then, they mix a bit of fiction with the truth, saying, “look, a man being in these situations, it was natural to be corrupted.”
You are saying that he did not accepted.

Ventania: Certainly. He was incorruptible. He was a good man. He was a follower of Jesus.
And I think, many of Christians in nowadays, believe that Jesus’ suffering was far greater than those of his apostles. Since they suffered more.
One was crucified on an open cross. The other asked to be sacrificed upside down. The other was skinned alive, crucified and burned. My respects to Saint Bartholomew.
Another was shattered. Another was hanged. Another was stoned.
And I say this with my evidence, that he did not die on the cross through the spear of the soldier who was Essene, and at the behest of Jose de Arimathea. When perforated he his lung, was leaked water. So at that moment he breathed.
And before that, he asked for water and they gave him celidonia, translated as acetone, which was a poison in which had the capability to make a person stand 36 hours as dead. Then, they offered him a sponge with this celidonia, and immediately he fell.
And these 36 hours have passed, so these 3 days were in fact 36 hours.
And when Mary Magdalene came to the tomb and saw two men in white, and the body no longer present, they had already released the body, treated and taken. So, they were just tidying up the place.So the men in white

Jesus wore white, the Essenes wore white…  They were not angels. Taken the appropriate proportions, yes. But angel, not comes down to earth to unpack dead. 

All this fiction, mixed with faith, form a religion.
What was once a myth, then turns legend, then turns history, then turns the truth or lies. It depends on the belief of each.
If I say that the God of the Old Testament, was an evil God, and God the father of Jesus is a good GodI would be stoned. Or crucified.
It turns out that this does not occur, because Ihave gone through it.

Jefferson: So he did not die on the cross but was crucified. Right?

Ventania: Yes. It was the custom of the time, to being crucified, men lasted for days. Especially when they had footrests. I had this support. But by nightfall, no body could stay on the wood. They broken my legs, and I passed out and I I collapsed.

In his case, he was already fainted. It was a theater. It was the custom also of that time, which they cutted the wrist or any artery of the leg, to see if it was pouring blood. In his case, no soldier did this, instead, paid by Joseph of Arimatheathe soldier speared him a part of the lung, to leak out and saved him.
This soldier reincarnated on this earth (Brazil). He was a famous master conspirator.
Many of these men of the past were present and are present in this country. Here is a place where great things will occur.
That’s why I giesnias, isms, Gale … Soon you will know why I use the name of Gale, decided to work inside this popular religion (Umbanda).

Because do not interest me, arrive with my knowledge to the wiser, or those who can do not read, but the middle. And if the middle, which is the majority, be able to understand my words and leave the hate behind, achieve a balance between  love and reason, then, my work is done.

Jefferson: Then, when he was taken, why it was placed in a tomb, if he was just about effects of the drug?

Ventania: Because all men needed to know he was dead. It was a theater.
All spread out. The own disciples.
I have been known because I had a rooster. Lonely people usually are accompanied by certain animals. In my case, I had a rooster. That was the rooster that crowed when Petrus denied him. 

But my symbol is precisely the cock of the winds, which redirects.
And mind you, If you would like to learn, look for the Orient.
There is a man named master Issa, in Cashmira, who was a great teacher.
He multiplied breads appeared in several places simultaneously, He raised the dead, as well as other avatars such as Krishna, that made until the levitation of food.

Krishna was born of a virgin, Buddha was born of a virgin, Jesus was born of a virgin,,, epoch was the custom, be born of virgins.
And this master is buried there. The Hebrews customs were brought to Kashmir in India, where Shiva dwells. And he was buried at Hebrew form.

And the customs and the words of the region are Hebrew words. And, that is a region of language Hindo-European. Being that this is a region that the bodies are cremated. Therefore the role accepts much. I just want you to think about. And if you think, you’ll get incredible conclusions of what can be true or false. But not discussing his holiness because they were all saints, for what they did, also the millions of men and women who died in the inquisition, too, they are holy and sacred.

Not want to discuss faith, but I want to discuss what can be true and false between human existence.
I affirm: Hell does not exist. The reincarnation exist. Resurrection is impossible.

And the resurrection happened in several other religions. So by the time the first priests needed to create something coherent to that book called Bible, they were gathering knowledge, making cutting-edge flaps and taking other ancient religions characteristics.

This Bible is so … each one says one thing You see, a part of the Old Testament say that you should not make an image of anything that exists between heaven and earth.
But the ark of the alliance had two cherubim.

Not thou shalt make no image before you, so that no adores.” For thus consecrated host, the God made of wheat, placed inside a sun, and represented the god RA. The monstrance, the eternal adoration for this wheat piece, can not be worship to God. But if your faith wants so be it, I will respect your holy wateryour anointing  oil, your cross, your hostia and all beliefs. But do not think that these elements deceive or frighten spiritual beings.

Note: (Constantine the Great, responsible for the foundation of Christianity, also worshiped the god Ra, which in Latin is called Sol.)

Ventania continues: I will give an example: these temples of the new religion, they call me demon.
Nowadays, anyone who is going through obsession in the popular language, she is possessed by a demonImagine a person who was taken by a spirit. A priest comes, makes his ritual with its wafer, and with the holy water and the demon walks away.

Now, take a Mongolian person. And this Mongol is being taken by a spirit of that region. Asks the priest to pray in Latin and use its elements.
If that person does not have that reference, nothing will happen. Therefore, this is a self-hypnosis, it is neurolinguistic, a very interesting science.

Great men were born during the Enlightenment period, and are reincarnation, and are fruits of the descendants of Jesus.  The France was the center of it all.

Jefferson: Talking about Illuminism, how much the aversion to the Roman domain that Judas had, Dimas has shared?

Ventania: Dismas was a merchant. I was simply a trader who wanted money. And all information that came to me, I also agreed that Judea had to be free.  I shared the ideas of Judas, especially because he was a Essenic, and I always been interested in magic.They had great magic and they were great connoisseurs of plants.  They managed to do that a man crucified, to pass for dead.  So I became interested, as Joseph of Arimathea and many others.

Jefferson: You had any religion and practice, or was just a…..

Ventania: I was was a son of a Greek mother and Syrian father. Therefore, everyone had their creed. I never cared about, but I liked the philosophy.Because, as a trader, I had contact with people who came to the Silk Road and gave informations about all religionsEspecially the Oriental. So, what delights me. But I did not have a belief, a religion. Still do not have it.

Jefferson: Thank God. Mr. Gale (Ventania), can you give more details of dialogues that occurred between Dismas and Judas?

Ventania: I talked to him some few times.  Once I welcomed him in my house, when he  fled from the Romans. I scared myself with his presence, I was scared of death
Then, the entire information I had about Jesus, came much more from Andrew and Mary Magdalene, instead of Judas.

After he left, when I asked him to leave my house, we not found ourselves more. Very little. We saw eachother at the distance, but did not talk.  So, the good news came through of André. And all those miracles that are not miracles, and all that is true Where there is the true God, where do we go
Take out a person from the dead, and cause her to rise again, it is simply giving hope that life is eternal. That was resurrect the dead. I believe we‘ve talked about this. As Lazarus also well suffered from a disease, and Jesus for being a relative, he said: Arise and walk” and he got up and walked.


At that time, anyone who stayed in a coma, was presumed dead. For the Jewish custom was to get rid of the dead as soon as possible, for it brought bad luck. And thus occurs. many people were buried alive, and I thank the custom today to ensure the bodies. Because at least this shall be not happening. If it occurred today, these resurrections would be called: People returning from comas in hospitals. 
The medicine was very little evolved at that time. So anyone who close his eyes and breathe softly, was presumed dead.

Jefferson: If you could go back in time and start from scratch, and you could choose again, you would choose to follow Jesus?

Ventania: I would choose to follow his teachings. Something that few follow. For me no matter their masters, but to me, I care if there was a Allah, if there is an Elohim, if there is a God.

Because, since I care about Jesus, Muhammad and the patriarchs, I’ll be creating confusion. No matter with what is human, but with the message.
Look for what it is like, what is similar, where you will find love, peace and union.

The human being, like to destroy, when you guys say it’s the devil who comes into the world, to steal and kill and destroy; I wonder: I who come into the world to kill, steal and destroy?
It was in the name of the demon that many wars took placethe Crusades … I was in the name of the devil Great examples I can quote  It was in the name of the devil that the inquisition took place or in the name of Christ? 

And this Christ even know it. He worried by what was happening, because mankind is being a butcher. Millions of people were burned, because the great butcher, the whore of Babylon, the antichrist, which was the Catholic church, who killed, persecuted and robbed all those who were not baptized and do not follow its rules.

I have Cathar origin in one of my incarnations. And the holy water was cursed. And the oil of anointing was cursed. Because charged to baptize. Charged to bury their dead, if charged, even at that piece of land to bury a person. So, I was against it. The first crusade was precisely against the Albigensian. And there I was. My father and mother were Cathars.  And I was sold! Sold by this incarnation in France, to serve the priests.
Therefore, I have the other side of the coin in my knowledge, too.

And this is happening today. They are selling God.
You, poor, have to pay the indulgence to get to heaven. If your mother dies, you go talk to the priest. And this priest will say she is burning in purgatory and you will have to pay with money the ointment. But depending on the amount of the fee, many dukes and duchesses will be released from their penance. They will pay and the church will release.

 

Now you ask me, Where dwells the Antichrist?
I can say that the seven hills around Rome represent the seven horns of the beast.
But I can say that the popes are the beast.

And I say also, that the human being is a beast. Because the human being can simultaneously love the one that interests him, and steal, lie and destroy, if necessary. The beast is the own human being.

And my job as karmic collector this orb is precisely to bet that human beings still may be helped and will not destroy his own world.

Jefferson: Wow!

It is said that after we die, and if dies 10 people at the same time, due to the earned vibrationeach of them encounters a reality in the afterlife. How it happened to you, in that moment of passage?

Ventania: Your reality on the other hand, this matrix control occurs by what you engraved on your perispirit.  So if you cre in hell, you go to hell.
And I stayed, let´s say, to please the brothers of cristian churches in breast of Abrahao  and pleasing Spiritist, I was in treatment, 
until the time required to return.
I went back to my spaceship, because if you guys do not know, no one is from here.
And I came into this world for 16,000 years ago, together with the winds of Orion who are the spirits that reincarnated here. through wars that occurred in Orion, where many worlds were destroyed, and in which good and evil were rivals.

And there was a proposal of a federation, that it was possible one Neanderthal be assisted by spirits, which they did evolve, and able to balance of love and reason.
That’s why I’m here. I was a fleet commanderI was responsible for the death of many people, I was, of reptilian origin and‘m here a long timeI was responsible for the death of many people, I was of reptilian origin and‘m here a long time.

Jefferson: So, you didn´t went to the threshold? Because if you were arrested as a thief, did wrong thing ?

Ventania: Wrong for people. I was not wrong. I just took what was sacred to me, but I never did harm to anyone. I did not killed, stolen or destroyed. I just collected some coins. I never did anything wrong, it was a fair trader.See, in the Last Supper day, I also had an interest in selling the paschal lamb and could not sell. I was a merchant. And, did I have to go to the threshold, because I was a merchant?   Not. This was my function this was my function..

Jefferson: What about the Last Supper, when he says, one of you will betray me.” Why, that much is said of this passage? Really existed?

Ventania: I will be controversial now.Who betrays, it is who denies.
The Catholic universal church grew upon a pope. And they created a myth that Peter would be the first pope.  The representation of him is the inverted cross.

When you see these satanic religions, using the inverted cross as derision to Jesus, but against the Catholic church. So who betrayed was the man who used the name of Peter.
Not even want to charge this indugence of Peter, but it was the man who betrayed him. So, if someone today will betray me”, do the following: Point to yourself.

You are betraying Jesus now at this moment and every moment you are killing, stealing, destroying, raping, dealing with prejudice, humiliating, discriminating

It is repetitive. It is not at supper that “a man will betray me today,” but eternal, until they improve as human beings.
He knew what would happen.
Judas simply wanted to remove him from the region. There was no betrayal.

Jefferson: So he did not said that one of you will betray me”?

Ventania: Yes, he did. But  figuratively. one of you will betray me.”
Take these 12 apostles. I prefer to say 13 because his wife was also, representing the 12 tribes of Israel and represents humans. Each with their qualities and faults.

Therefore, it was figured. This today” is not literalAs he said, “Today will be in my father’s house.”
I did not passed away and arrived in heaven with lions, giraffes, grapes and children playingNot. I was living my reality. So therefore everything is allegory. 

Today you are betraying Jesus. Today‘re selling Jesus. And, it is from this Samsara wheel that modern and spiritualistic religions are trying to rid the human being. Because the human tendency is to be fanatic. And fanaticism kills people.

Jefferson: So, you said that would not follow the man, more, would look to follow the teachings and have understanding.
What he much has taught and that you did not heard, if returned, you will hear today and try to change?

Ventania: Love God above all things, because I loved money above all thingsDo not take the holy name of God in vain, because I also believed in my mother’s gods, in ancient gods of my father. Perhaps did not follow that life, glaring, which I lived and be simpler because his words were very simple and very easy to understand.

Take the blindness of the blind, is is not to make him sees, but him see that there is an eternal life, he is at that moment just paying for something he did on the need for clearing his spirit.
I believe I would have been spiritist at the time, but everything in good time. The Spiritism, the spiritualism, contact with intra-earthly travelers beings, alien, occurs at the right time.
While you guys are is not worthy, this will not occur.  

And at the time it happened. You looked at the sky and saw a myriad, like moons passing through sky as they monitoring what was happening.

They say that soon after the death of three on Golgotha, great wind did.
So, I reveal now: Naves who approachedAnd they came to gather in spirit, myself, for example.

Jefferson: Of course, you had, independently, a spiritual offspring, right?

Ventania: I do not come from here. If you ask, you because I speak Portuguese.
Because, previous to my penultimate reincarnation, I was Portuguese. I was a navigator. I I passed by France, I passed through Spain, as well as other countriesI was copyist

So, many realities that the old spirit goes, take him at the right time to return to his
motherland. In my case, my fleet, which is monitoring you guys. but today we are ceasing to show up to the naked eye, because the human being especially Christian, is not prepared for a contact.

So we are inserted into intra-land, Sea and try not to communicate in a physical way, because you guys would be scared.

My form is not beautiful, my form is reptilian, but your also is not beautiful.
beauty is in the eye of the beholder, so many beings can say that Jesus had a feature of common, ordinary and ugly man. But no!

Look into the heart, the fire of every being and you will see the beauty. One that is ugly to you, can be beautiful. Up forms, say, incitoides, this universe.
But we are following a path, we could get many hours.

Jefferson: With your permission, I will ask: If you could again return to time, and if you could only give advice to Judas, which, the moment that the Lord appeared to him and what advice you would give?

Ventania: Be always the gnu in the middle, not show too much the face.
But at that moment it was necessary that it occurred.
But he should not face because Jesus had already decided what would happen. So no avail. Once decided, there are no way to disobey. Sin is disobedience, so let it be fulfilled.

But he repented, because it remained many years in a essene fortress. He died with over than 70 years, not knew the own sonThen, here came the repentance.

But, as long as he followed him, he was a good follower. And he defended with nails and teeth the Nazarene.

 

Jefferson: You said he did not accept the money and was there to talk to Jesus, that they were plotting betrayal Got it right?

Ventania: Yes. He needed no money.

Jefferson: So , he did not participate in any betrayal?

Ventania: No, he participated in negotiationHe has been called by the priests. Therefore, there was Antonia fortress, that at any time could crucify 3,000 Jews on the same day, as already occurred.
Sothe fear of sarcedotes was: losing the trades, which infested the area of the temple, fail to make their profits. There did not sold Jesus, but they sold the old God. Sold doves.
It was an unbearable stench the area of the temple.
So he was negotiating, and they wanted something, in which there was not as being obeyed but he threatened to death and he ran to warn, but there was not way, because it was already written. Maktub.
But you see, there was not a death but a transmigration. 

When they say he ascended to the heavens after days, I say, he followed a path went up a hill, which owned a fog and was slightly disappearing. There are no chariot of fire and horses of fire, which comes for anyone, to take the body and soul.
He was an ordinary man who led the Silk Road.
He was not recognized by his own, so he picked up during the last years of his life.

Maria also and their brothers, except two, were taken to the Orient. They remained in Ephesus for some time, and then went to Srinagar.

Jefferson: You said that he did not die, as a drink paralyzes his system, which made it appear that he was dead, after 36 hours he came back to life, was traveling and was not reconized by others… Is that?

Ventania: He was treated within the Jericho fortress, after he went to Damascus. Years later, in a essene ritual, the own Paul, the apostle saw him in flesh and blood. For he had taken a drink, similar this celidonia, he did go blind. 

And many psychoactive plants left him blind for a few days, or even forever. For this reason, so much change at that man who was naughty, who killed Christians.

They saw eachother.
Then he went from Damascus to the Orient, teaching what he has learned from the Buddhist monks.

Jefferson: That Jesus?

Ventania: Yes, that Jesus. Isa. That same Jesus. 

You guys need a man who raises? Okay, I’ll name a fewGanesha raised. Osiris risen. Odin raised.
It is normal for the believer, that his God is better than the others.
They expect a resurrection of the plagiarism

Jefferson: Right.  I’ll make the reading of the Gospel of Judas. Are few pages and if I have any questions, I’ll ask.
If you have any comments, you can stop me too, okay?


 

Gospel of Judas: Interpretation of Exu Ventania will be translated after Eastern

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Existence of God

It is said that an old, illiterate Arab prayed with so much faithful and so lovingly, every night, that once the rich chief of great caravan called him to his presence and asked him:

– Why do you pray with such faith? How do you know that God exists, when you do not even know how to read?

The faithful believer replied:
– Great Lord, I know the existence of Our Heavenly Father by His signals.

– What do you mean?questioned the chief in admiration.

The humble servant explained:
– When you receive a letter from someone who is absent, how the Lord recognize who wrote it?

– By handwriting.

– When you get a gem, how is providing information about the author of it?
– For the mark of Goldsmith.

The servant smiled and added:
– When you hear footsteps of animals around the tent, how you know, later if was a sheep, a horse or an ox?
By the footprintsreplied the chief, surprised.

Then, the old believer invited him out of the tent and showing him the sky where the moon shone, surrounded by stars crowds exclaimed, respectful:

– Lord, those signs up there they can not be of men!
At that time, the proud chief Caravans, with tearful eyes, knelt in the sand and began to pray too.

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666 – The Apocalypse of John according to Spiritism

Every new day is a blank page in life, where we paint our daily thoughts, actions and attitudes. Today is time to paint Love, Tolerance & Faith for a Peaceful tomorrow Chico Xavier & Miss Froggy

Everything we do return back to us…. Let us sow peace and reap many fruits of love. Miss Froggy

THE APOCALYPSE OF JOHN
A few years before the end of the first century, after the advent of
new doctrine, since the spiritual forces operate an analysis of the world situation bitterness in the face of the future.
Under the aegis of Jesus, establish new lines of progress for civilization, marking the initial features of the European countries in modern times. Rome no longer is, then, to the invisible plane, but an infectious focus that is necessary to neutralize or remove. All of the high gifts had been neglected by the imperial city, transformed into a Vesuvius passions and exhaustion.

All events subsequent to the existence of John are set forth therein.
It is true that often the apostolic description penetrates the darker ground; We see that his human expression could not faithfully copy the divine expression of his visions of thrilling interest in the history of mankind. Wars, future nations, Forthcoming torments, commercialism, the ideological struggles of Western civilization, are there detailed glimpsed. And the most painful figure, there related, which still offers the modern world view, it is well that the erring church of Rome, symbolized by the beast dressed in purple and drunk with the blood of the saints.

Identification of the Apocalyptic BEAST
Says Revelation that the beast could say great things and blasphemies for 42 months, adding that the number was 666 (Rev. XIII, 5 e18). Examining the importance of symbols that time and following the track of interpretations, we can take each month as of 30 years instead of 30 days, obtaining thus a period of 1260 years common, precisely the period between 610 and 1870 of our era, when the Papacy was consolidating after its inception, with the Emperor Phocas, in 607, and the decree of papal infallibility with Pius IX in 1870, which marked the decay and the lack of authority of the Vatican, in the face of scientific, philosophical and religious evolution of humanity.

Regarding the number 666, without referring to interpretations of Greeks numbers in its values, we should appeal to the Roman numerals on its significance, to be more publicized and well known, explaining that it is the sumo-Pontiff of the Roman Church who uses the titles:  

“VICARIVS GENERALIS DEI IN TERRIS”, “VICARIVS FILII DEI” and “DVX CLERI”

which means Vicar General of God on earth“, Vicar of the Son
God and” Prince of the clergy. “It will be enough to the student a little game of patience, adding Roman numerals found in every papal title in order to find the same equation of 666 in each of them. It is clear, therefore, that Revelation of John has special importance for the fate of terrestrial mankind.

Defection of the Catholic Church
Since 1870, the year that marked to man the decay of
The church, by virtue of their spiritual defection in fulfilling the great duties entrusted by the Lord, in apostolic times, a period of profound transition marks all human activities.
In vain the world waited the Christian achievements, initiated in
Constantine’s empire. Coupled with the state and living at the table of their economic interests, the church did not take care of anything that was not its perishable kingdom. Forgotten God, never sought to match the evolution of the physical man to the spiritual man, clinging to undergrowth interests and greedy politics of the time. That’s why l now hang over the forehead the most sinister predictions.

Interpretation Chapter XIV – Title: The Apocalypse of John

Autor: Emmanuel       Medium: Francisco Xavier

Interpretation: André Luis Sobreiro      Participation: Roberto      Source: Rede Amigo Espirita

A Caminho da Luz / On the way to the Light ISBN: 978-0-9829748-2-7  Year of Publication: 1939

André: Roberto, I do not know if you noticed, but here has a revelation. We do not enter the text and the title already has a revelation: The Apocalypse of John. There are many scholars who argue if Apocalypse was written by John or someone wrote for him. Even, for some people, making a historical survey, said that at this time, John had already disembodied.
Emmanuel is already making a revelation: The apocalypse is from John.

Roberto: But at the seminar we watched in Sao Jose de Rio Preto, with Haroldo Dutra, he spoke at length about the Apocalypse of John. The Haroldo Dutra is one of the great scholars of the Apocalypse. And he already revealed at the beginning, Revelation is from John.

André: It’s John. Emmanuel is already making a positive, concrete revelation: The Book of Revelation is from John. For us, the Spiritist, is already solved the problem.

The teacher begins his text: “A few years before the end of the first century (André says:. Emmanuel fixing date a bit before the year 100), after the advent of the new doctrine, that is, Christianity, since the spiritual forces  operate an analysis bitterness situation of the world in the face of the future
André says: Most important. Why Emmanuel is saying that spiritual forces operate an analysis of the situation embittering the world in the face of the future?

Roberto commented: André here he is saying: “a few years before the end of the first century, John has lived 90 years, close to one hundred years, then, before John’s disembodiment, has already been written. At the time of John‘s proving that he wrote the Apocalypse.
André: Yes, absolutely.

Roberto continues: And look what Jesus is worrying, “the spiritual forces operate an analysis of the bitter situation of the world”, before closing the first 100 years.
André: That’s what I was concerned to explain, Roberto. By the year 100, the situation of the world had already muddled again. Jesus was a flash of light on a dark world. But shortly after Jesus returns to the moors the situation of the world has descended again.

I mean, a little before the year 100, spirituality did an analysis of the planet and humanity had already deviated from the straight path again.
Roberto: So spirituality was already predicting what was going to happen to those people of that region.

André corrects: We. Emmanuel continues: “Under the aegis of Jesus (the aegis means defense, protection, shelter) establishes new lines of progress for the civilization, marking the initial traces of European countries in modern times. Rome, is no longer is, then, to the invisible plan, if not, an infectious focus that is necessary to neutralize or remove .

André: The Roman Empire had lost its way
Roberto says: infectious mean that is contaminating. It is a disease that infects the entire population of Rome, reaching the neighbors.
André: The problem was this: Rome was an empire that would be expanding, conquering new lands and new people. Roma took their culture to those conquered nations. Then, all nations Were dominated by Rome, it was just getting as well contaminated as Rome. This is the term. So bad, greedy as Rome.
Roberto: The controversial spirits, to the Christianity would dominate neighboring countries. So you need to what? Neutralize. What did Jesus do? He neutralized. Surrounded.

André: All the gifts from above, had been neglected by the imperial city
André makes a comment: Jesus commanded all that was possible to not have to neutralize or remove: For the love or the pain.” Jesus sent the message: “Stop before it is necessary to take drastic measures.” Rome did not hear. This is what Emmanuel is transmitted across the All the gifts from above, had been neglected by the imperial city, transformed in Vesuvio‘s passions and depletion.” Rome lost its way. Allowing the lower passions dominate. Why volcano? It is an uncontrollable force. It does not exist, nothing in the world that controls a volcano. The science will not produce anything that controls a volcano by eruption.

Summarizing: Rome lost control of itself. It is like a cancer, it took a huge size. I mean, you do not control. You have to weed out.
The Divine Master, Jesus calls the spaces the spirit of John, which is still stuck in the bonds of earth. (he get out of his body),  and the astonished and afflicted apostle read the symbolic language of invisible (Andrew says:.. Symbolic language Jesus does not tellby narrating him what will happen). He sees everything in out-of-body.

Now we will pay close attention on this symbolic language. Because when he comes back to his body, he has to write down what he saw. Exacly in that point it will give a confusion error). Recommends him the Lord that he delivered his knowledge to the planet, with a warning to all nations and all peoples of the earth (That is why he spoke. Give the seven churches Seven is the entire planet, Seven is the number unity. Look how interesting!
And the old apostle of Patmos (Greek island), transmits to his disciples the extraordinary warnings of the Apocalypse”
Andrew: John narrated, ie he dictated what he saw and the scribe wrote down.

All facts subsequent to John’s existence is there provided
Andrew: Here’s a revelation. Revelation begins more or less after 100 years of Christ. All the facts, after the existence of Joao is there provided.” When begins the narration? More or less after 100.
It is true that often the apostolic description penetrates the darker ground difficult to understand

André: Why? He will now explain: It is seen that his human expression could not copy faithfully the divine expression of his visions of thrilling interest to the history of humanity
André: That is, what he saw (outside the body), he failed to pass to the scribes, the symbolic, prophetic visions.

It has a very big difference between what we see a psychic ecstasy and what we able to pass a book. Human language, it is limited. We can not step into the role 100%, for example, a psychic ecstasy. This is what Emmanuel is saying, John could not, at some points, faithfully pass on what he saw.

Then, at some points the apocalypse is doubtful.

Roberto: It is a language that needs to study hard in order to understand.
André: There are points where John failed. Emmanuel is saying. Let’s read again: It is true that often the apostolic description penetrates the darker terrain, difficult to understand. See that his human expression, (when he returns to the body, say by the way, a body with almost 100 years old, limited, tired, hurt) could not copy accurately the divine expression of his visions of palpitating interest for the history of mankind. “ Look, John not realized. It is not a grotesque failure is not an intentional failure, but it is a fail.

Roberto: He may not copy accurately, I mean, he did not copy 100% that Jesus gave to him.
André: He saw and, at the time to describe he did not have conditions to express what he saw. Because there are things we see, Roberto, that human language has no words, no words.
Roberto: It’s like that old saying says: I learned for me, now I do not know to transmit.” , To pass this knowledge is difficult.
Andrew: Exactly. Human language is limited to transcendent things. Your example is in the context that we want to pass. So, John had no conditions.

Roberto: Well, I believe that these failures are not so great, but, minimal, little things. For if they had something that would interfere the greater spirituality would not publish some teachings that would hamper. He published with flaws, but these teachings were of great help to the humanities.

André: It’s possible. Emmanuel continues: “Wars, future nations, the Forthcoming torments, commercialism, the ideological struggles of Western civilization, is provided in detail
Andrew: All symbolically. Would give a deep study How does John calls wars? It has a symbol for war.
Roberto: It’s all in the basis of symbol, then?

André: What is the symbol for the nations that have emerged? What is the symbol for commercialism? What is the symbol for these ideological struggles? Would give a deep study, find out what the meaning of these symbols.
Sea in the Bible is war. And I saw a beast came from the sea” = it is a nation that rose after a war, one empire that arose after a war. Two symbols here, we already know. War: sea. Beastnations, empires. Look how interesting!

And the most painful figure there related (the Apocalypse) which still offers a vision of the world, it is well that the erring church of Rome, symbolized by the beast, dressed in purple and drunk with the blood of the saints.” Revelation: The Emmanuel is saying that one apocalypse beast is the Catholic church.

Roberto: Emmanuel is saying?
Andrew: Yesss. Let’s review a little longer on this figure, more painful, listed on the apocalypse, which John says. This vision of the modern world: The wayward Church of Rome. The Catholic church. We can not criticize the Catholic church itself, towards our brothers Catholics, but the Catholic power, the dome.

Roberto: It is because the Catholic Church was that it brought the documents of Christianity.
André: Christianity itself, until around 1857, so Kardec deliver on the Espiritism doctrine. Then we can not come out criticizing, judging.
Roberto: Never. It was she who saved the documents and brought us Christianity.
André: So when Emmanuel tells us that the wayward Church of Rome is one of the beasts seen in the Apocalypse, he is speaking of power, the abuses that were committed, not Catholics of our brothers. It is logical that have a lot of good people there.

Roberto. Logical, but the Catholic church symbolizes the empire, the field that had in the world, both in the government, as the religious part. She had a power to dominate the nations.
André: Exactly. It is this power of Rome to dominate consciences being convicted of Emmanuel. Is this empire being called a beast. The Roman power in the religious sense, that John saw as a beast. But the power, and not the good souls, who are in the Catholic church. For God’s sake
Roberto: Exactly.

André: So, continuing: symbolized the beast, dressed in purple.  This purple clothes is luxury, adorned clothes with precious stones, and drunk with the blood of the saints,

André:. Because often the saints did not know what was the Catholic church and they were canonized . Then, the catholic church were saying that the saints were Catholics martyrs.”

Sometimes the person did something good, cured someone, doing well things in a very remote village where there had no idea what was the Catholic religion… And often, during the inquisition, many inocent people were killed by the Catholic church. There are reports of it. Often the catholic church killed these people, later they said, that the saints were Catholics martyrs.”

Roberto gives an example: Joan of Arc.
André: And then canonized these people as if they were Catholics saints. Hence the distortion of the image: drunk with the blood of the saints“, they often killed and then they themselves canonized. So, this is the symbology: dressed in purple, luxury, with stones with gold, drunk with the blood of the saints, which often killed they themselves and beatification of, canonized. And often, the higher spirit (saint) who did the work that made the cure and made fenomemo in which our brothers Catholics call “miracles” did not know the Catholic institution. But they canonized like a priest, a Catholic friar and distorted all the facts.
Roberto: It was good for us to study and analyze this part.
André: We close here the first part of today, going to the second part of our study.

Study No. 50 -. Chapter XIV – Identification of the apocalyptic beast

André: Let’s read this sub-item with a lot of attention because it has a lot of information that we need to discuss, it is a very important topic: Says Emmanuel: “Tell the apocalypse that the beast could say great things and blasphemies for 42 months, adding that it´s number was 666, citation of the apocalypse, chapter XIII, verses 5 and 18. “
André: We will discuss this item, then: This beast that Emmanuel is telling us, that could mean great things and blasphemies for 42 months, is that we have already quoted in the previous study, Emmanuel identifies as the wayward Church of Rome, symbolized by the beast, dressed in purple and drunken with the blood of the saints. It was the end of our study of the book “Towards the Light” from last week.
So, we need to understand that Judaism wore “symbolism”, when making their narratives. And Emmanuel will help us interpret this symbolism now. So, we will try to interpret them as best as possible, paying close attention in the interpretation of symbols.

Emmanuel mention two verses of the Apocalypse, which we will now read:
Revelation XIII, 5 John the Evangelist tells us, “In the beast was given a mouth to speak arrogant words and blasphemies and he was given authority to act for 42 months.
Much attention to this end: The beast had authority to act for 42 months. This information is very important for the continuity of our study.
And verse 18 John tells us: Here is wisdom. The one who has understanding count the number of the beast, for it is man’s number. His number is six hundred sixty six, half, half, half 666 “

André: Come on. Continuing the book on the way to the light, then join the informations. Emmanuel continues: “Examining the importance of symbols at that time, (Andrew says: Look at the symbolism of Judaism, how Judaism wore symbols, used images on their narratives), and following the right course of interpretations, (André : that is, Emmanuel will prevent the distorted interpretations and will give us the proper course), we can take each month as 30 years.

André: Emmanuel is showing us that, in this apocalyptic time scaleevery month has for us the time of 30 years. Each day, one year. Each month, 30 years. It is good we make it clear that the Jewish month, he has 30 days. There are no months of 31 days, nor the month of February 28 days.

The Jewish month, has invariably 30 days. The Jewish year has invariably 360 days.
So 42 months X 30 days = 1260 days, which is the cycle of this apocalyptic beast, quoted in the book Revelation”.

Some times, John the Evangelist will speak in 1260 days. At other times, he will speak in 42 months.
42 months x 30 days = 1260 days. He is citing the same information in two different ways. Emmanuel continues: We take every month, to be 30 years instead of 30 days, thereby obtaining a period of 1,260 common years, precisely the period between 610 and 1870 of our era after Christ.”

André: The cycle of the beast, the beast power cycle, dressed in purple and drunk with the blood of the saints. Therefore, the power cycle of the Catholic church began in 610 after Christ and ends in 1870 after Christ.
Let’s see the facts that mark the beginning and the end: “When the papacy was consolidating after emerging with the Emperor Phocas in 607

André comments: 3 years after the Emperor Phocas, the papacy arises. Then Emmanuel tells us here that this story to say that Simon Peter was the first Pope is gibberish. The papacy begins in the year 610, although Emmanuel not tell us here, who was the first Pope, unless he is saying that the Emperor Phocas was the first Pope. By then, we would have to study a little more.
And how it ends the power cycle of the Catholic church? And the decree of papau infallibility, with Pius IX in 1870

André: This information with infallibility in 1870, Emmanuel himself had given us in the book Emmanuel, psychographic in 1937, a year before the book “Towards the Light.”
Therefore, in 610 after Christ, it begins the power cycle of the Catholic church. In 1870, with the decree of papau infallibility, closes the power cycle of the Catholic church. Was an extreme act, as we often say, an appealing act of the power loss of consciousness, saying: When the Pope takes a decision, is inspired by God. So the Pope was infallible.
Aware that begin to lose power, they decree the papal infallibility. Such as fear of losing temporal power, but actually what they lost was the power to dominate minds. And the beast dressed in purple and drunk with the blood of the saints, strode to the end of its cycle.

André: and Emmanuel continued: What marks the decline and the Vatican official‘s absence. Authority that had already taken a serious blow in the sixteenth century with the Protestant Reformation. Because you can not deny that Luther made a big damage to the Catholic organization. The beast apocalyptic had taken a very serious blow, but managed to rise again. But now, the lack of Catholic authority reached the peak.

And, in order of not lose power, decreed to papal infallibility in the face of scientific evolution, philosophical and religious of mankind – Humanity has looked  to philosophy with new eyes, while science progressed, and the religious notion of humanity had matured.

But the way the Catholic religion to think of man’s religious notion God did not change. Humanity no longer felt more security. And then the Emmanuel reason to say: the absence of the Vatican‘s authority in the face of scientific evolution, philosophical and religious of mankind.”

And the guiding continues: “As for the number 666, if we refer the interpretations with the Greeks numbers on their values, we must appeal to Roman numerals on its signification, to be more publicized and well known

André: Look at this. Roman numerals were more widespread at the time.
And it is this numbering Roman numerals, which is the key to confirm that is the papacy, which is the cycle of the power of Rome, which is the scheme, not to lose the temporal power, the beast dressed in purple and drunk with the blood the saints. Let us deeply study what Emmanuel tells us now:

Explaining what is the most holy supreme of the Roman Church, the Pope who uses the titles of: Vicarius Generalis Dei in Terris, Vicarius Filii Dei and Duquis Cleri, which means:

Vicarius Generalis Dei in Terris: General Vicar of God on earth
Vicarius Filii Dei Vicar son of God
Duquis Cleri: Prince of the Clergy
It will suffice to the student a little game of patience, adding Roman numerals, found in every papal title in order to find the same equation of 666 in each of them.

In the first title: Vicarius Generalis Dei in Terris

Vicarvis
V: 5 I: 1 C:100 A: 0 R: 0 I: 1 V: 5 S: 0

Generalis

G: 0 e : 0 n : 0 e: 0 r :0 a : 0 l : 50 i :1 s:0

Dei

D : 500 e : 0 i : 1

in i: 1 n : 0

Terris T: 0 e: 0 r: 0 r: 0 i: 1 s: 0

The word Vicarius: 112
The word Generalis: 51
The word Dei: 501
The word in: 1
The word Terris: 1
All in all totaling: 666

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Vicarius Filii Dei

Vicarius

V5 i 1 c100 a 0 r0 i1 V5 s0

Filii

F0 i 1 l 50 i 1 i 1

Dei

D 500 e0 i1

The word Vicarius: 112
Filii: 53
Dei: 501
All in all totaling: 666

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Dux Cleri
Dux: 515
500 D v 5 x 10

Cleri: 101
C 100 l and 50 r 1 i

The word Dux: 515

The word Cleri: 151

All in all totaling: 666

André: The three sentences Emmanuel gives us, in which the Pope is called in the Catholic church, if you add the Roman numerals, will be given 666. Proving that the papacy was the beast, dressed in purple and drunk with the blood of the saints John the Evangelist saw and recorded in Revelation, Chapter XIII, verse 5:18, which Emmanuel cited here in the book the path of Light.”
Only the level of curiosity, we can mention also, all scholars are adamant that the Revelation and the prophet Daniel in the Old Testament are supplements of each other.
In Daniel the prophet, Chapter VII verse 25, Daniel tells us about an animal who will speak against the Most High, will oppress his saints and try to change times and laws: 

The saints will be given into his hands for a time, times and half time. Time, times and half a time.

Time is 1
Times is 2
Half-time is ½
1 + 2 + 1/2 = 3 ½
Therefore: 3 ½ is half of a cycle.
Joining the two verses, 1260 years is half a cycle.
So, this cycle of the beast is half a life cycle.

Half of the cycle, the beast tried to bewilder the world in religious terms. Now we have, starting from 1870 over 1260 years to rebuild the world religiously, until the arrival of “Happy World“, which is the fourth stage 4, according to Allan Kardec in the Gospel According to Spiritism, Chapter 3obviously through the world regeneration and through the transition that has already begun, in which we are passing through.

André: Emmanuel continues: “It is seen as the Apocalypse of John, has singular importance to the destiny of earthly humanity.”
André: explains: It was not for nothing that Jesus chose to quote the Bible Revelation. A book where would revelations of paramount importance.
When Jesus calls John the Evangelist unfolding (out of body), he makes the revelations and take providences. We study it a little bit ago, when we talk about the wording of the final text, spirituality participated in the writing of the final text and the choice of books that would go to the Bible.
When Jesus calls John the Evangelist and show these pictures and take providences so that the apocalypse was mentioned in the Bible, it was providential. And we need to study this book, even if it is a book of extreme difficulty for us.
And to close the first part of today, closing also the chapter 14: THE SCRIPT of light and love. Emmanuel tells us: “But let us return to our purposes, fulfilling us to recognize in the Gospels a divine wonderful light, the incessant flow of centuries has only been able to revive and rekindle.”

André: The times, the progress, scientific progress, for example, the philosophical progress, growth goers number, of the more dogmatic religions, multiplication of the false prophets which we are seeing in the transition we are going through, none of this has power to outshine the light of the Gospel.
The Christ‘s words are words of eternal life. Neither time nor space has the power to decrease. This is what Emmanuel is saying, “Is that they keep the score sheet, the record of all the compendiums of peace and truth into the lives of men.”

André: Nothing will bring us peace: Neither power nor money, nor the professions, qualifications Nothing will bring us peace. Only the gospel will bring us peace, will fill our hearts with joy, as Jesus told the Samaritan woman: “I have a water. If you drink, you never feel thirsty “is the pure water of love, through which all souls can ascend the luminous mountains of wisdom from heaven. It is the Gospel which will take us to this point, for these heavenly moorlands.
That will give us to meet the highest circles of earth spirituality. And who knows, even the most advanced worlds one day. Sirios where Alcyone lives and other more advanced worlds. In this and other galaxies….

Book “On the way to Light“, chapter 24. Subtitle: Clarification of the Catholic Church
André: The title itself already brings us to the need to seek synonymous. Defection, according to the dictionary Aurelio, means “party of abandonment, belief,” bringing us a sense of drift, will surely comment to us the moment the Catholic Church turned away, the way of conducting souls to Jesus. And Emmanuel tells us: Since 1870, the year that marked the man the decline of the church”

André: A lot of attention to this point, because in 1870 marks the end of the Church cycle. Let us remember what was said a few chapters ago, when the benefactor told us that the cycle of the beast, cited chapter XIII book of Revelation, written by John the Evangelist would have 1260 years in Revelation symbolically, for 1,260 days.
Emmanuel tells us that these 1260 years began in the year 610 and then adding to 1,260, the we arrive to the year 1870.

And which marks the end of the power of the Catholic church, according to Emmanuel himself. The first work he brought us, through Chico Xavier, was the papal infallibility.

The decree of papal infallibility marks the end of the power cycle of the Catholic church. It was maximum appeal, that extreme attitude of those who can no longer manipulate minds. And with the fear of loss of power, decreed that all the supreme pontiff said, would come from God.

Because ponifice supreme, the Pope, the representative of God on earth, everything he said, would come directly from God. The papal infallibility in 1870 marks the end of the church’s power cycle. And Emmanuel continued, “because of its spiritual defection in the fulfillment of the great duties entrusted by the Lord

André: says: Then Jesus entrusts this church the mission of conducting souls to Christ-the obligation, the duty of the Catholic Church was to lead souls to peace, to perfection. And the defection using the same term that the benefactor, brings us this connotation of a deviation from on the way. A detour, referring to the task that was assigned to the church, to do what Jesus asks the Apostle Peter in the twenty-first chapter of the Evangelist John notes: . Feed my sheep
In apostolic times, a period of deeper transitions mark all human activities.”

Interesting to note here, when Emmanuel tells us a period of deeper transitions mark all human activities.” Because we cling to the very concept of planetary transition and sometimes we forget, we do not realize the cycle of personal transition through which we are passing. Our values are being rebuilt.
So there is a dire need to rebuild ourselves. The transition involves our hearts. Because values and feelings are being rebuilt and before build new values, it is necessary to deconstruct the old values.

We are being asked to give up everything that interested us for millennia: Money, power, sex, social status, all this being destroyed.
And the new values need to be built in our hearts.
So, all human activities are being reconstructed on their moral values.
So we are seeing so much confusion. Because, what guided us, what led us, we no longer guide, no longer orients us more.
Hence the great confusions who are going on in our professional lives, in our family life, our social life, including our religious life. Because the old values no longer satisfy us anymore.

So, it is a necessity, we see life with different eyes, with other values.
And Emmanuel continues: In vain, the world waited for the Christians achievements, initiated in Constantine’s empire, together with the state and living at the table of their economic interests, the church did not take care of anything that was not its perishable kingdom.
When Emmanuel tells us of his perishable kingdom, it is clear to us that he is reminding us what Jesus said in the gospel verse, in fact commented by Allan Kardec in Chapter 2 of the Gospel According to Spiritism: “My kingdom is not of this world”.
It is quite clear to us that the church was concerned more with Cesar kingdom, reminding us also what Jesus told us: “Give to Caesar what belongs to Caesar and to God what is God’s.”

The church is concerned with the kingdom of Caesar, with the perishable realm.
Jesus never aimed, according to what we have found and we can interpret the Spiritist texts, to build perishable kingdoms.
The idea has always been to build the heavenly kingdom. The kingdom of God in our hearts. And our attempt has been often unconsciously rebuild this kingdom of power in the world.

Therefore so many people do not open hand of power. There are those who, since thousand years, has been fighting for time financial power and do not understand or pretend not to understand the need to move to give up, to open hands these values.

The church, at some point in its history, break away from Christ and allied to the state and has been helping to take care of perishable powerful kingdom, forgetting what Jesus told Pilate: “My kingdom is not of this world.”
Emmanuel continues: Forgotten God, he never sought to match the evolution of the physical man to the spiritual man, clinging to creep interests and greedy politics of the time.”

André: Interesting that here. How often do we forget the spiritual man evolution, the evolution of the spirit and take care only of the evolution of man body? And we care about building empires to bring in luxury, comfort, facilities and forget often that without the cycles of pain, suffering there is no learning.
Often we forget these necessary movements to grow in spiritual feeling and we were often concerned only with the growth of the physical man, just looking for the pleasure of matter, the body, the flesh.

That power is being dismantled by spiritual forces.And that power is being dismantled by spiritual forces.

And do not be deceived, because there are spirits living in psychosphere of the earth, trying to not let all this, power scheme, disassembled, fall. There are spirits living in psychosphere of the earth. Some incarnate others disembodied, making everything possible so that this power scheme does not end. Just as there are spirits, deviating a little commentary of interpretation, who are fighting, they are doing all possible and imaginable movements, to maintain the spirit that lives in psychosphere of the earth, incarnated or not, remain in the ignorance. Because ignorance interests to those in power: Whether politicians, heads of state, religious leader or unscrupulous businessmen

The chance of falling from power, when their protected ignore the form of renovation, the possibility of renewal is very small. Let us not forget that. Concerns the mighty men keeping ignorance. Is urgent to clarificationthe growth.
And the Roman Church has opened hands, of this movement it was her task to lead souls to Christ.
But, Let us not deceive once again, my brothers, my dear listeners. Because we are not talking about an institutionWhen we commented on the Catholic Church, we are not bragging about an institution.

We are bragging about spirits accustomed to power. And many of them are right now reincarnated. These spirits, accustomed to power, are reincarnated in the spiritualist movement, to try to see the relationship of man to God in another way, and to redeem the mistakes of the past. Then, we see Spiritist people with the central tendency of power, making all movements inside a spiritualist home, taking part of the  movement of a city … The Spiritist movement concerning a town, a state turns around it, and everything will happen the way that this person wants.

Because we bring to the Spiritist movement everything that has been learned and assimilated during millenniums in innumerable incarnations. Let us not forget that the fact we have become Spiritist does not change us automatically.

And the risk of bringing to the Spiritist activities such atavism is very large.
It’s just us to think, not the level of judgment or criticism, but as a form of analysis and case
It’s just we think of the situations of the owners of Spiritist homes.” Everything revolves around one person.
And woe to those who disagree with this person, woe to those who try to show where are the gaps, at doctrinal levelThis unfortunately happens a lot.

We need help, we need to pray, we must pray to the spirits friends, to enlighten our souls. For these souls rediscover the path of self-elevation and the elevation of those who of them come close to.
And Emmanuel continues, ending the first part of the study of today’s morning: That is why, right now hang him on the forehead, the most sinister predictions

André: Vaticine means predictions, prophecies. And the prophecy, is nothing more than a revelation in the sense of the cause and effect principle.
In 1938 Emmanuel is telling us that prophecy calls predictions difficult sinister that hovered over the Catholic church.
Nothing more, nothing less than the fulfillment of the laws in the sense of the cause and effect principle: What was planted in the past would be collected right now.

And as the church, deserted, stepped down from their duty to lead souls and often ledrather the wrong direction, arrived in 1938, the time of harvest.
And these spirits who enjoy power, who like to centralize itself activities, are having a chance to see their faults. Deconstruct itself this centralizing movement, son of pride and selfishness, and reconstruct a healthier religiosity.

Many of them are learning this through the hard way in Spiritist activities.

 

Prayer: Lord Jesus, friend master of the souls doctor, we thank you Lord, for more this blessed opportunity that we are having this evening of Saturday, that we may be here together, seeking the understanding of the spiritist doctrine, seeking the understanding of your gospel, the Lord in the light of comforter, that your goodness promised us 2,000 years ago.
We remember, Lord, thy celebrated words recorded by the evangelist John, whose apocalypse is being cited in studies, when in Chapter XIV of the notes written by this evangelist, between verses XV and XVII, you told us that: If you love me , keep my commandments and I will pray the Father will give you another comforter to be with you forever. ”

We thank the Lord for sending, by the advent of the spiritist doctrine, and thank you also, Sir, the psychographic work of Francisco Candido Xavier, which has brought so much light to our lives, our experiences, which has enabled both in our intimate reform. Because Chico Xavier, Lord, was the medium of spirits group, led by Emmanuel, who had the mission to revive primitive Christianity in its original purity. And we know that the mission of Francisco Candido Xavier was not easy, and we thank him, we thank his mentor, Emmanuel, and the whole team who used that humility and that most enlightened hand to bring us so much light, so much information, so much blessing, and by consequence, so much possibility for growth.

That at the meeting today let us be protected and illuminated by the Emmanuel team, the mentors of the portal of light, which we know we are already being supported and enlightened by them, we have no doubt about that.
Thanks to their presence and we ask clarification to discuss these maxims, in the clearest possible way, so that we all have an understanding of the scriptures and we may spread this understanding properly, safely in the light of the comforter.

That we may reflect this light, Lord, as we try to develop our own. But that we are mirrors, fewer blurry increasingly clean, reflecting light that comes from above, coming from your men of confidence. May ultimately, it comes from your great love, Master.
Love for your smaller brothers. We started at the moment the 50 study of the works of instructor Emmanuel. So be it

Every new day is a blank page in life, where we paint our daily thoughts, actions and attitudes. Today is time to paint Love, Tolerance &  Faith for a Peaceful tomorrow. Chico Xavier & Miss Froggy

 

King Solomon Testament

A fool is wise in his eyes.

Start with God – the first step in learning is bowing down to God; only fools thumb their noses at such wisdom and learning.
Who is the wise man? He who sees what’s going to be born.

King Solomon

 

Photo & Research: Miss Froggy

Date: 07.02.2016

Last Weekend I came across the Testamnt of SolomonGaping, not restrained my surprise! How fool I am!

I never heard before that Solomon left a Testament and  aways thought, Allan Kardec was the first one to leave recorded in texts, contacts with spirits!

According to historians, the book of Solomon was banned” of the new Bible, but often used by alchemists and magicians.
Well, I never got interested in magic, in contrast, have a lot of respect, because I have been several years in the evangelical church member. Perhaps this is the reason why I had never heard about it.

Solomon was the third king of all Israel and reigned from about 971 to 931 B.CAs

I observed, Solomon was a medium. So he could talk to spiritsAlso, the cause of it crazy, is due to the phenomenon well known to medicine with schizophrenia.
According to my spiritualistic studies, the medium should not exceed 30% of their mental abilities, either he will be crazy, if it is not morally balanced.

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The Testament of Solomon is a Christian Gnostic apocryphal work, which is dated to the 4th centuryOriginally, the Testament of Solomon is considered text with Jewish pre-Christian origin, which was revised by early Christian writers.

Content of written in Greek writing is the Solomonic temple. It begins with the transfer of a sealing ring of God to Solomon, and he was able to control every demon, but not only that, he had also contact with another creature of other solar system.

If you wish to read the whole Testament, here as PDF: The Testament of Solomon

I hope I will get the time for a deeper study, but what I found, surprised me a lot and at same time, it confirms what Mr. Ventania told in some of his Dialogues, as for example, a passage which Salomon talked to a woman from another solar system:

The word of Greek δαίμων “daimon” means in religious studies initially a “ghost” or a power of fate (δαιμόνιον Daimonion) as cautionary or warning voice (of conscience)” and understood undoing”. Under Christian influence, the importance then walked up to devil”, Satan”, Lucifer”. Today with demon” counter-neutral to more positive sense of the original word for intentioned mental phenomena or spiritual being exclusively referred to such an “essence” that frightened by the perception that people at risk of or cause them harm, in every respect as an evil spirit appears

Solomon ordered a number of demons to be questioned about their properties and determines the most of them to assist in the construction of the temple. However, the temple serves primarily as a framework for action; the lighting of the demons is the focus.

 

32. And I Solomon, having heard this, rebuked him, and said: “Silence for this present1, and continue to saw the marbles as I commanded thee.” And I Solomon praised God, and commanded another demon to present himself to me.

107. And I Solomon, when I heard this, glorified the God of heaven and earth. And I commanded them to fetch water in the Temple of God. And I furthermore prayed to the Lord God to cause the demons without, that hamper humanity, to be bound and
made to approach the Temple of God. Some of these demons I condemned to do the heavy work of the construction of the Temple of God. Others I shut up in prisons. Others I ordered to wrestle with fire in (the making of) gold and silver, sitting down by lead and spoon. And to make ready places for the other demons in which they should be confined.

Now I ask: Why demons (spirits) would give the secret code, the key words to him, to imprison them or ban themThese evilspirits, who built the temple of Solomon, they would be not smart enough to think for themselves or fast enough to escape from prision?

So, if Solomon‘s temple was built by demons, I see two possibilities: either God never accepted this sacrilege made by evil forces“, or demons (spirits) are creatures who serve God How to explain this?

Getting to be accounted for, perhaps we can understand this passage of Job, in which since I was a child, always intrigued me:

There was a man in the land of Uz, whose name was Job. That man was blameless and upright, and one who feared God, and turned away from evil. It was so, when the days of their feasting had run their course, that Job sent and sanctified them, and rose up early in the morning, and offered burnt offerings according to the number of them all. For Job said, “It may be that my sons have sinned, and renounced God in their hearts.” Job did so continually.Now on the day when God’s sons came to present themselves before Yahweh,Satan also came among them. Yahweh said to Satan, “Where have you come from?”Then Satan answered Yahweh, and said, “From going back and forth in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.” Yahweh said to Satan, “Have you considered my servant, Job? For there is no one like him in the earth, a blameless and an upright man, one who fears God, and turns away from evil.”Then Satan answered Yahweh, and said, “Does Job fear God for nothing? 10 Haven’t you made a hedge around him, and around his house, and around all that he has, on every side? You have blessed the work of his hands, and his substance is increased in the land. 11 But stretch out your hand now, and touch all that he has, and he will renounce you to your face.” 12 Yahweh said to Satan, “Behold, all that he has is in your power. Only on himself don’t stretch out your hand.” So Satan went out from the presence of Yahweh. Job 1: 1-12

What kind of God is this, that he needs to test the faith of his servants“?

Nowadays, we know, thanks our technology, that “our” Milk Way has a diameter usually considered to be about 100,000–120,000 light-years. Because it´s almost impossible to immagine, how far is it, we can make a comparatios: Imagine that our galaxy has a diameter of 2 football fields. At one end, place a matchbox, which is our solar system. Did you got it 😉

According to Nasa, they may estimates, but there isn’t a firm, solid, 100% answer: “100 billion stars in the Milky Way on the low-end and 400 billion on the high end”

How many galaxies found Hubble Teleskop until now?

According to Mario Livio, an astrophysicist at the Space Telescope Science Institute in Baltimore ,  between 100 billion and 200 billion galaxies.

Now, that´s not all! Those numbers are only what our equipment are able to catch!!! According to cientist, there are Multiverse.

Does God in his infinity, creator of all things, needs to live in temples, test his believers, or he needs our earthly coins?
Does God know that we exist?

In the Bible, it says that we were created in his similarity. So, let’s take a trip through the human body:

Do you know how many cells make up your body? The atoms? You notice when a virus had contact with your hand thumb, pressing the elevator button? You notice when bacteria enter your nostrils, reaching the lung, causing pneumonia?

You notice a microbe, to eat your salad, in which he reaches your stomach, staying in your intestine, causing diarrhea?

For that is what we are! Parasites, living on planet Earth.

We human beings, we destroy our planet, every time we pollute a river to remove gold, as the case of Brazil.

We’ve destroyed our planet, every time we left “leak” junk atomic, in the seas, such as the case of Fukushima, or Oil platforms, thus killing thousands of fish and other marine animals, so we can fill our car tank, and be able to comfortably get around.
Or pollute the air with poison gas or rubber tires, which take 600 years to decompose, not to mention, when we throw plastic in the streets and rivers, polluting the earth, which will take 100-400 years for decomposing.

We human beingsare so selfish, that no matter the thousands of people who get sick or die because of respiratory problems or cancer.

But if this cancer hit us, then we will kneel to the “altar of God” and we ask: Why my God have abandoned me? Then, we pray and ask for a miracle, to heal our nasturtiums, caused by ourselves.

This is the role of Homo sapiens: Hypocrisy.
It’s time to change our concept in relation to the Earth.
It’s time to wake up for the environment.
It’s time to love our neighbor like ourselves.

 

29 that your eyes may be open toward this house night and day, even toward the place of which you have said, ‘My name shall be there;’ to listen to the prayer which your servant prays toward this place. 31 If a man sins against his neighbor, and an oath is laid on him to cause him to swear, and he comes and swears before your altar in this house; 35 “When the sky is shut up, and there is no rain, because they have sinned against you; if they pray toward this place, and confess your name, and turn from their sin, when you afflict them,37 “If there is famine in the land, if there is pestilence, if there is blight, mildew, locust or caterpillar; if their enemy besieges them in the land of their cities; whatever plague, whatever sickness there is; 38 whatever prayer and supplication is made by any man, or by all your people Israel, who shall each know the plague of his own heart, and spread out his hands toward this house, 39 then hear in heaven, your dwelling place, and forgive, and act, and give to every man according to all his ways, whose heart you know; (for you, even you only, know the hearts of all the children of men;) Solomon 8: 29-39Thanks a lot for reading and have a nice day, nice afternoon and a nice evening, miss Froggy

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References:

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Testament_Salomos

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http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/13842-solomon

http://liebezurwahrheit.de/salomos-okkultes-reich-der-magie-und-daemonen/

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Job%201&version=WEB

http://asd.gsfc.nasa.gov/blueshift/index.php/2015/07/22/how-many-stars-in-the-milky-way/

http://www.space.com/25303-how-many-galaxies-are-in-the-universe.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiverse

 

The Apocalypse of John – introductio

Many people who are saints, they were beast in other incarnations. Not everybody are prepared to listen to what I’m talking about… Exu Ventania

Many people who are saints, they were beast in other incarnations. Not everybody are prepared to listen to what I’m talking about… Exu Ventania

Dear readers,
since  few months ago I had the inspiration to write a little bit about the  Apocalypse in the Bible.
Once this Gospel of John is  very controversial and with difficult of interpretation, I pray for God, Jesus and my spiritual mentors, to stand nearby me, with the light of knowledge. So, may I be able to deliver to you guys a safe  and easy understanding work.

For this work, I will use two different sources: Spiritism & Umbanda

Spiritism: The interpretation of the book “On the way to the Light“. Year: 1939, made by spiritist and professor André Sobreiro.

Author: Emmanuel spirit Psychography: medium Francisco Xavier.

Umbanda: the dialogues of Mr. VentaniaThe Lord of the Winds and Storms, which is incorporated in Umbanda, through the Medium Fernando Parada. 

In one of his reincarnations, Lord Ventania lived in Galilee, where he had contact with Judas, Andrew, Mary of Magdala and once stood and talked directly with Jesus.
A few months ago he made many revelations regarding to the events of Galilee at that time, and also the interpretation of the Gospel of Judas.

I pray to the winds of Orion to protect me and take all the negative energy away, so that in the near future I may also translate the dialogues, which has a lot of importance to the future generations.

Book: On the way to the Light. Year of Publication: 1939

THE APOCALYPSE OF JOHN
A few years before the end of the first century after the advent of
new doctrine, since the spiritual forces operate an analysis of the bitterness situation
in the world, in the face of the future.
Under the aegis of Jesus, establish new lines for the progress of
civilization, marking the initial features of the European countries of the times
modern. Rome is no longer representing, then, to the invisible plane, but an
infectious focus that is necessary to neutralize or remove. All gifts of
High had been ignored by the imperial city, transformed into a
Vesuvius passions and breakdowns.

The Divine Master calls the soul of John to the spaces, who still found caught in the Earth’s bonds.

The Apostle, astonished and afflicted, read the symbolic language of the invisible.

So, recommends him the Lord, who delivered his knowledge to planet as a warning to all nations and all peoples of the world, and the old apostle of Patmos  transmits to the disciples the extraordinary warnings  of the Apocalypse.

All subsequent events  to the existence of John are there foreseen.
It is true that, often, the apostolic description penetrates darker ground; it is seen that his human expression could not faithfully copying the divine expression of their views of thrilling interest in the history of mankind.

Wars, future nations, the torments Forthcoming, commercialism, ideological struggles of occidental (Western) civilization are there, glimpsed detailed (foreseen).

And the most painful figure there related, which still offers a vision of the modern world, it is surely that of the wayward Church of Rome, symbolized in the beast, dressed in purple and drunk with the blood of the saints.

 

IDENTIFICATION OF THE APOCALYPTIC BEAST
Revelation says that the beast could say great things and blasphemies
for 42 months, adding that her number was 666 (Rev. XIII, 5 and
18).

Examining the importance of symbols in those days and following
the track of interpretations, we can take each month as of
30 years, instead of 30 days, obtaining in this way, a period 1260 ordinary years, precisely the period between 610 and 1870 of our era when the Papacy was consolidating after its appearance, with the Emperor Phocas, in 607, and the decree of papal infallibility to Pius IXin 1870, which marked the decay and a lack of authority of Vatican, in face of scientific, philosophical and religious developments of Humanity.

As for the number 666, without referring to interpretations Greek numbers in your values, we should use the  Romansnumbers in their significance, to be more publicized and well known, explaining that it is the Supreme Pontiff of the Roman Church-who uses the titles of

Vicarius generalis DEI IN TERRIS“, “Vicarius FILII DEI” and “DVX
Cleri ” 

meaning:

Vicar General of God on earth “,” Vicar of the Son God ” and ” Prince of the clergy. “

Suffice it to a student a little game of patience, adding the Roman numerals found in every title Pope, in order to find the same equation 666 in each tittle.
It is seen, therefore, that the Revelation of John has singular importance for the fate of terrestrial mankind.

As for the number 666, without referring to the interpretations with the Greeks numbers on their values, we must use the  Roman numbers, in the significance of them, to be more publicized and well knownexplaining that it is the Supreme Pontiff of the Roman Church, who uses the titles of Vicarius generalis DEI IN TERRIS“, Vicarius FILII DEI” and “DVX Cleri “meaning,” Vicar General of God on earth ,” Vicar of the Son of God” and “ Prince of Clergy. “
It will be enough to the student playing a little patience game, by adding Roman numerals, found in each papal title, in order to find the same equation 666 in each of them.

It is seen, therefore, that the Revelation of John has singular importance for the destiny of terrestrial mankind.


THE SCRIPT OF LIGHT AND LOVE
But to return to our purposes, fulfilling us to recognize in the Gospels a wonderful and divine light, that the incessant flow the centuries has only been able to revive and rekindle.

They are who keep the summary of all textbooks of peace and truth into the lives of men, being the script of light and love, through which all souls may ascend to the luminous mountains of Wisdom from Heaven.

Reincarnation in the Bible II

On the day we re-establish the ties with our creator father, when we engage all creatures of an unconditional love, we will attain spiritual redemption, we will reach the resurrection. Haroldo Dutra

In fact, reincarnation is a proof of God’s goodness. Haroldo Dutra

The spiritist exhibitor Haroldo Dutra Dias and other guests, explain about reincarnation in the Bible.

Youtube: https://youtu.be/9TLh2cCC1Zo

Source: www.transicao.tv.br

Date of Publication:  05.03.2013

 

The concept of reincarnation is in the Bible? The Transicao” TV Program asked this question to the great scholars of the subject and the results you see on the program, which has the theme “The Reincarnation in the Bible”

Haroldo Haroldo Dutra Dias: The reincarnation theme has caused many doubts especially in people who come from a religion that has a greater tradition of the study of the Bible.

What people are asking is whether the idea of reincarnation is actually an Biblical basis. I mean, the Bible attests the existence of reincarnation? The reality of reincarnation?

Severino Celestino, biblical Researcher: In the Bible does not exist the word reincarnation, because the word Reincarnation was created by Allan Kardec.

But in the Bible the Hebrew term called הגלגלים של הנשמה, meaning “the wheels of the Soul”, it is perfectly present in many passages of the Bible, not with the word reincarnation, but for example the word להחיות, which in Hebrew means  Revival.

Haroldo Haroldo Dutra Dias: The reincarnation has always been part of thoughts, meditations of the Hebrew People, that are the holder of the tradition biblical.

Both the Old Testament, as the New Testament were written, for the most part, by the authors of the Hebrew People. And these people had the habit, as tells us Flavius Josephus and other literary texts, to study, to meditate about the reincarnation theme . They assumed this topic because they considered that particular matter should not be discussed in public, but in a closed circle of scholars and people who had a more mature.

The concern with them was exaggerated mysticism, because they feared that some people stay a long time discussing purely spiritual issues and forget the daily occupations, the obligations of family, work, personal obligations concerning the morality, social behavior and so on.

Therefore made these considerations, we’ll find the texts of the Bible, both the old as the New Testament the idea, the assumption that there is reincarnation. And that reincarnation is the key to the understanding of certain issues. As an example, the text of Exodus when he talks of the commandments and says that the third and fourth generation shall they make atonement, because the guilt of the first Generation, the generation of their ancestors.

There is even a preposition in Hebrew, which says: I”n the third and fourth generation, I atone for the faults of my parents, grandchildren and great grandchildren” , by showing a sequence and that we are heirs of our past, as we are in the present constructing our future.

Also in the New Testament there is a clear dialogue, objective Jesus says explicitly on the need of both births: the water and spirit. Nicodemus clearly shows that he understood the birth of water as a return to the womb, a physical biological rebirth, as the only one able to solve certain issues and to give continuity to our learning process.

One life is too Little.  There is plenty to be done and to be learned and we need more of one existence to accomplish this learning to solve our emotional pendencies, to continue what was not possible to complete in one life. In fact, reincarnation is a proof of God’s goodness, that is always renewing the opportunity, which is always renewing the possibilities.

And it is more than that: Often in our existence, we have created relations of hate, sadness, Aggression and the reincarnation brings the possibility of reconciliation.

As Jesus said in the sermon on the Mount:Reconcile with your opponent while you are on the way with him

José Reis Chaves, biblical Researcher:  It is clear that here too we are reaping what we have planted, the law of cause and effect.

We are reaping what we reap. This law, let’s say, it is divine but who handles are ourselves. We have sown, so we reap it back.

Haroldo Dutra: the reincarnation is the journey where we meet the past enemies and also find affections of the past in an attempt to reconciliation, to re-build the history, retelling the story of our lives once more.  It is a possibility that the creator gives us. This is all presupposed in the Bible, there is no reason for us to not read about this Approach.

And in the end it, all a question of reading. If we are in a polite look, if we’re looking for, we will find. For he who seeks shall find, one who knocks, the door opens.  If our eyes are closed for these
questions, if we are with a closed mind, with a fundamentalist mind, we hardly fwill ind these Biblical texts some reference about reincarnation and other topics. But if our hearts, if our mind is open to capture these realities, it is as if the text appears to oue eyes, it is like  a perfume bottle you open and begins to feel the fragrance.

So, the advice is: Open your mind, open your heart. The laws of nature is revealed gradually, and our reading of the Bible will centralizing and perfecting. We do not read the Bible as people did read about three thousand years ago, same we will not read the Bible in a thousand years later, as we do it today.

As we grow and our interpretation grows too, by reading the Bible. So, the advice is: Read peaceful, openly, inspired and this comprehension will come naturally..

 

The law of reincarnation is a natural law? Where can we find more
  information about it?

Haroldo Dutra: The reincarnation is a biological law, is a law of nature as well as the law of gravity. Not all the laws of nature must be explicitly noted and commented on the biblical text, because the biblical text he has a purpose. It has a central message, and a connection between the books. Not all natural laws therefore need to be significantly addressed.

They are presupposed, ie the author who wrote those books presupposes that the reader already knows certain natural laws. Or presupposes that some natural laws would be revealed over time.

José Reis Chaves: Many evangelicals and Catholics brothers say You guys spiritualists teach the reincarnation. The Bible teaches the resurrection. It turns out that, the word reincarnation was created by Kardec around the year 1860. It could not, then, appear in the Bible. But we have synonymous words of reincarnation in the Bible, as for example the words rebirth and generation. Because the Bible is not only generation consanguineal, but also from the Spirit.

Haroldo Dutra: In this block we will see some examples from the Bible regarding the subject reincarnation. For this we started with some biographical Quotes: The first is the book from Herminio Corrêa Miranda The reincarnation in the Bibleand the second book belongs to our friend Severino Celestino, analyzing the biblical traditions where he  examine the original Hebrew text.  

And one of the main texts analyzed  by Severino and also by Herminio is the text containing the ten commandments, Deuteronomy and Exodus, where it says that God, in His justice function, would punish the errors, according to some translations, until the second third and fourth Generation.

And, as the authors explain, that would be an injustice, because children, grandchildren and great-grandchildren descendants are responsible for the fault of a Patriarch, of a ancestor.

By analyzing the the preposition in Hebrew, we can conclude that the text actually says: I”n the third and fourth generation.Therefore, letting it be understood we are heirs of our spiritual past.Often we make a mistake in an existence, and a third and fourth generations in the same Family, ourselves, reincarnated, received the heritage of misunderstandings or successes of our spiritual past.

Another text that also deserves a highlight is the third chapter of John’s Gospel, in which Jesus talk with Nicodemus. Now, Nicodemus was a doctor of the Sanhedrin a man of Position in the epoch of Israel and had deep knowledge of the Bible. Otherwisehe would  not occupy the supreme court of the Jewish People. He then seeks Jesus, bringing his doubts.

The master Jesus said clearly that might not see the kingdom of heaven a man were not be born again. Nicodemus, implying that he realized the magnitude of issue and who understood the question in its exact terms, asks: But how can a man, an old man, enter a second time into the womb of his mother?

It is clear that it is not about the baptism ritual or anything similar they talked. In fact, they talked about going back to the uterus, born again, coming in a new existence. Jesus not only confirms this understanding of Nicodemus, as it adds to the reincarnation process the necessity of renewal. Because is not just reborn, one has to renew itself. And the intimate renovation is the great central message of the Gospel.

Severino Celestino: The Bible having its full extent, both in the first revelation of the Old Testament as the new,passages  clearly confirms. A very marked passage is in Chapter 11 of the Gospel of Matthew, verse 10-14 when he refers to John the Baptist, he said that among the children of women no one was greater than john. But John was more than a messenger, more than a prophet. And as the prophet Malachy  who spoke , it  would be sent the prophet Elijah before the great day feared the Lord, Jesus confirmed saying that, as Isaiah spoke about the coming of the Messiah, and Malachi spoke about Elijah coming preparing the way, Jesus said: “Truly I tell you, among those born of women there has not risen anyone greater than John the Baptist.  If you want to understand, he is Elijah who should return”.

So, Jesus closes matter of Malachi and Zechariah proving directly that the body of John Baptist was inhabited in the spirit that had inhabited in Elijah’s body in the past. The Body of Elijah is one, the Body of John Baptist is another. owever, the Spirit is the same according to Jesus .

Haroldo Dutra: These are three quite clear texts, very expressive. But next to them, there are several other texts. But these, requiring a sensitivity of subtletybecause they do not expressly speak about the theme.  But it presupposes the subject. It is as if the subject were a requirement, a prerequisite so that we make a deeper reflection.

So here are three passages that attest to the reincarnation, which show that the incarnation is not a creation of oriental cultures. It is not even a creation of the encoder Allan Kardec.

The idea of reincarnation is present in many civilizations in the ancient world and is even and tightly rooted in the culture of the Hebrew People, , so that today various currents of Judaism are reincarnationists, admitting the reincarnation as an element profoundly necessary to understand the divine righteousness.

There will be divine justice is not there possibilities. For if we imperfect humans, we give new chances and opportunities so that people can remake, regenerate, restore and to reconstruct their  Destination, what will not the creator, in his wisdom and in his goodness to renew the possibilities and
let each of us redoing the mistakes and rebuild the future?

So is and the two indication of works and the invitation to this reflection on the mercy that God’s justice which expresses itself through the reincarnation.

If reincarnation is in the Bible, there is no conflict between Spiritism and Christianity?

Haroldo Dutra: Many people think that  Spiritism is not a Christian religion. Rather, the Spiritism is all pointed to the figure of Jesus. All its moral base, all the base of conduct is taken from the incomparable  example of master Jesus.

In the first book of spiritist coding  in question 625, it is very clear that Jesus is our guide and model. It is our great driver, the one who inspires and educates our spirit. So there is no reason to believe that Spiritist do not have a biblical basis.
It has a feature for Bible study, a need to study the Bible. Spiritism actually has a lot to contribute to this debate, it has much to contribute to the understanding of the biblical texts
especially the in the New Testament texts.

So let’s approach the subject that causes a lot of doubts, which is the opposition to reincarnation, the resurrection. Many believe that these two ideas are opposed: “If I accept the reincarnation,  I can not accept the resurrection. If I accept the resurrection,   I can not accept the reincarnation “. But studying spiritism more depth, we realize that there is a complementary factor between these two ideas.

Otávio Marques, doctor of Immunology: So, the idea of resurrection appears in the Bible to resolve the issue with the resurrection of the body of Jesus, that the Catholic Church explains  the disappearance of Jesus’ body, where some people who had mediunic ability, where they saw Jesus like going to heaven.

Then associated with this and the body of Jesus disappearing, the resurrection idea was outstanding in the collective unconscious and brought by Catholic church.

But science with the advances and fundamentally with the development of scientific revolution of the 17th century, proves that our body cells, once dead, this structure does not go back to life. So, this idea is opposed to the idea of reincarnation.

José Reis Chaves: What happened to his body? Nobody knows. There are hypotheses, but the Gospel itself says that, what some people said,  his body was stolen. In truth, nobody knows.

Haroldo Dutra: In fact, the resurrection is the crowning of reincarnation. Let’s examine a little more close:  The word resurrection, without going into the Details, without getting the terms in Hebrew and Greek, it comes from an idiomatic expression of Hebrew. To say that someone died, the Hebrew People uses an Understatement in the biblical text. What is a euphemism? It relieves a little the expression.

Then, it was said so: When someone died, he lay down with his parents. This was even reflected in practice with the families of the patriarchs. They had a tomb, and as people were dying
being buried in the same place. So, usually the person is buried in the grave of his parents and ancestors. Then it was told in a popular expression, the person lay down with his parents, had lain down with his ancestors.

Well, to express the idea that death was not the end. The idea that God, being a spiritual being, He also created a spiritual reality and, if He created this spiritual reality, He presents us with the possibility of a spiritual life.

People say that once you lay down, you get up. In Hebrew it is the resurrection, “rise or get up“, meaning overcome death.

Well, what does the theme reincarnation says? It says that the creator renews the possibilities, renewed opportunities to continue what we did not finished, to solve what was unresolved, to reconcile the ties that were broken by mutual aggression

We are spirits in Evolution. Reincarnation give us opportunity to continue growing, evolving. As Jesus said: be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect.

Of course it is a symbolic expression,  made by   Jesus, because we will never be perfect as the father is, because God has an infinite perfection.

But humanly speaking, we can get close, at least the similarity of perfection of God, according the moral and spiritual improvement.

When we fulfill this process of improvement, occurs the resurrection.  The resurrection is the crowning of the reincarnation process, when the spirit comes to the Maximum degree of improvement that life in the flesh provides, then he becomes a pure spirit, a blessed spiritin other words,  someone who will experience the resurrection. The spiritual redemption is like completion stage . So, he need no longer be reincarnated for learning. He might rather, born in mission in order to to help someone but not as a need for spiritual improvement.

See, this is said in a very subtle way in Chapter 3 of the Gospel of John when Jesus says to Nicodemus: To see the kingdom of God, you must be born again.” Reincarnate to see. To enter the kingdom of God is necessary  be born again of water, but born of the Spirit, which is the process of intimal renovation, which means reincarnation gives us the possibility to understand, to visualization. But the final entry in the spiritual realm, the happiness which awaits us, this only happens through an intensive process of spiritual renewal. And this process of spiritual renovating
is summarized in the resurrection term.

Therefore, the end of the  reincarnation process is the resurrection. This is not about opposed terms, but it’s the same idea. The difference is only in degree. It is a difference processes of time. Then, we can unite two great ideas: the idea of reincarnation and the idea of the resurrection without oppose, without denying the biological law, a law of nature that is the reincarnation to understand this biblical theme of resurrection.

If you want to deepen more on this subject,  just go to  http://www.portalser.org/category/english/ where we approach some of the ideas that are on the Old and New Testament, inviting people to reflect about the central topic of Bible, which is the renovation, the union with the creator.

On the day we re-establish the ties with our creator father, when we engage all creatures of an unconditional love, we will attain spiritual redemption, we will reach the resurrection. Haroldo Dutra

Reincarnation & the Bible – Part 1

Council Lecture from Medium Divaldo Franco

Imperator City, Rio de Janeiro Brazil. Date: 19.08.1988

If you wish to know more about the Medium, please take a look here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divaldo_Pereira_Franco

Date of the Lecture: 19.08.1988

Date of Publication via Youtube: 21.08.2013 

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Pray: “Jesus, unconditional friend, bless us”

Divaldo: The adorable Professor Charles Richet, considered the father of human physiology, also one of the fathers of human Metapsychics, asserted with depth, a epoch something is implausible, in another era is credible, referring the thesis of Metapsychics. At that time, the contemporary thinking refused any possibility of a transpersonal reality.

The physiology and psychology advocated anyone that death was the end of life . The moment was given to brain death, the deoxygenation of Neurons, the creature ceased to exist and of course the soul, who was perspiration cerebral, no longer has legitimacy.

The concept of Richet is to draw attention to new ideas, since that new ideas are always fought with wickedness.

And in the same epoch, the notable and pessimistic German philosopher Friedrich Nietzsche said:  Any new idea in the beginning is fought, then ridiculed and finally comes to become a reality fully accepted. So it’s been through along the history of revolutionary ideas.

This topic is to refer to an exceptional man which presents a thesis in which he has been denied vehementlyexperiencing sarcasm and mockery and which gives into consideration, the human creature incorporates to their daily lives. I wish to refer to the Indian parapsychologist Hemendra Nath Banerjee and the theory of reincarnation.

Coming from  the city of Jaipur in India, the psychologist concentrated his work at the observation of exceptional children. Those who were provided with the genius and others that seemed to have a not necessarily brain Memory.

Brain memory is the one that comes in the DNA code and accompanying the development of the rational, through the various periods of their formation organic.

Banerjee had found children who were able to give informations that were not acquired in the current existence. And therefore he created psychological concept of extra brain Memory.

He had the occasion to say that reincarnation is a thesis that surprises the Western mind. And when it comes to any means to about reincarnation, people not clarified, invariably assume any of four positions:

The first is the classic negation, pure and simple. Very comfortable and commodious attitude. The second is a posture of reaction, based on religious doctrines that the individual professes.  The third is the attitude of acceptance and the fourth is a scientific Approach.

He said that it was very comfortable deny. For denying, enough 2 words: I do not believe.

It had been refused for many centuries the reality of the heliocentric System. And notwithstanding, the Earth has ever been fixed.

Tried to negate the story through the law of universal Gravitation: When heavier the body, the less his fall. And yet, this is the law that rules the cosmos, sustaining the galactic balance.

So, those who deny the reincarnation without ever been concerned with any analysis, keep an attitude of convenience, an anti-scientific attitude.  These people do not deserve further  cultural consideration.

The second group consists of those who say:I do not believe in reincarnation, because the religion I profess denies the reincarnation.  For me, it does not have any Basis”

And we heard this assertive (statement), through persons linked to different ramifications to Christianity, as  Coptic Christianity Russian Orthodox, Greek Orthodox, Roman Catholic Apostolic, Protestant, asserting that  his  Religion  denies the reincarnation.

These people deserve human respect, however demonstrates that they do not know their Religion.

If we make an analysis about the historical reality of the Religions, we will verify that the generating of Christianity, the reincarnation doctrine is professed by Jesus and accepted by his disciples. Several times we find Jesus referring to reincarnation, notwithstanding, using another word as it is obvious. The word that translates reincarnation is of Greek nature, Palingenesia, doctrine of several births, the Genesis.

In Torah, the word reincarnation is in the vocable (sorry, I didn´t understand the vocabulary, but it sounds like guilagu), that means born again. The Hebrew Torah accepts reincarnation, which was part of the secret indoctrination of the primitive doctrine.

Jesus refered several times to reincarnation. All of us, Christians, we have read the gospel, remember us  for  a instance of  the Moment he arriving at the place, he met a man who was blind since birth.  And the disciples interrogate him”why he was born blind. On account of own mistakes or from his parents?

What does this mean the passage? They believed in reincarnation. Therefore, that that man had sinned before being born, of course that was in a previous existence.

And as he was not carrying any negative karmic manifestation, Jesus redargue: neither he nor his parents sinned, but is in order to fulfill God’s will, that is, so that I can break free from blindness, since he did not have any negative commitment by law.

Later we will have the opportunity to magistral  Dialog to hear Jesus asked his disciples, Whom do men say that the Son of Man is?

And they elucidate: “Some say that you are Elias, others say Jeremiah, while others say that thou art John the Baptist and others who says you are the prophet who returned”

Then he asks Simon Peter: And you who say that I am? And Peter, taken from a psychic emotion, replied: “I say that thou art the Son of God, the Messiah we expected“.

And Jesus concludes Simao: “It was not flesh and blood have revealed you. It was my father who is in the heavens who revealed to you”

Let´s analyze: The people said that Jesus was Elijah, Jeremiah, John the Baptist or one of the prophets that alread were dead. Of course they thought that Jesus had been reincarnated.

But as he was not Elijah or Jeremiah, let alone Joao Batista, who desencarnava was little, and was not also none of the prophets, because Jesus was not reincarnated.
It is the sublime governor Earth, who became incarnate in order to serve as model and guide, leading us to God.

He asks Simao: Who do you say?
And Simao, who was medium, receives influx of divine Inspiration and reproof, Thou art the Messiah, the one we expected.

But if this is not enough, later, are the disciples who inquire: “Rabbi, it is not necessary to come before the Messiah comes Elijah?” And he clarifies: “But the Elijah who was to come, has already come. This, that is there, (they all understood he was talking about John the Baptist).

How could John the Baptist be Elias, if Elias had died nearly 800 years before? Only through reincarnation.

If we see the prophetic sermon, Mark 13, you will have the opportunity to draw the events of the end of the negative moral times. And in the final stage, he says: Do not pass this generation without all that I say, be fulfilled until the last Jota (a tiny Greek letter).

But we can see that it all about he said, did not happen.

Then he made a mistake or we misinterpret the Phrase. Will not pass this generation … From bodies or Spirits?

We will not be in humankind certain remnants of that spiritual generation. which has been reincarnated and that we are still here on Earth, waiting for the final Moment?

However, it’s wonderful the dialogue with Nicodemus, when the celebrated doctor of law who sat on the judgment seat of the Sanhedrin, one of 70 doctors of the law, keep an interview with Jesus and the gospel narrates the answer, the same as saying that there has been question: Verily, I say to you, it is necessary to be born again to enter the kingdom of heaven.

And the man who knew the Torah, the Mosaic Pentateuch, taken by surprise, requires: Lord, how is possible an old man enter the womb of his mother to be Born again?” He understood the answer. And Jesus makes clear: it is necessary born of water and of the Spirit to enter the kingdom of heaven.

The spirit blows where it wills, is like the wind, do not know where it comes from or where it goes. That which is born of the flesh is flesh. That which is born of the spirit is Spirit.

Later, the doctrines that descended from Christianity to Go to say that this revival is given through baptism, when the person is separated from the original sin. For those who are not informed,  of the sin of disobedience committed by Eve, who then seduced Adam. It is necessary that the person separates this grave sin, which led the two creatures to cohabit and entering the sensuality, they populated the earth. This is the explanation of orthodox religions.  Religions that much we respect, though we do not agree with their Explanation.

Let us analyze: If it is necessary to baptize, and those who die without the minimal possibility to receive the baptism like Eskimos, primitive people of New Guinea, creatures lost in the forests or in the cities children whose parents deny baptism and not grant them the purification. To where they go?  To limbo, a place of eternal indifference. But is it fair to punish a person who does not have any responsibility for not having been baptized? The answer is extravagant, exotic.

And those who were born before Jesus? Mankind had almost 4,000 years of ethical culture in civilization. Well, those Jesus redeemed with his blood, which does not let to be very comfortable.

Cambyses king of the Persians, Julio Cesar, Nebuchadnezzar, Cyrus had one unimaginable cruelty , who were evil, which destroyed civilizations, which ruined cities, Jesus has redeemed them.

And we, only because we were born later, we have to strive for own redemptionIt is a placement of logic, anti-Logical. Because it would be ideal that Jesus was coming first and taught to all and the disobedient ones would suffer but not dividing society: Those who were  born before, they are saved by the blood. And those who came later,  the bastards who is to be cleansed, making the doctrine of Christ one swing of nonsense.

But let us examine if there was original sin:

Says the Bible, and the Bible with all due respect, is a book of contradictions, starting of the so called creation, when God said on the first day: It makes the Light, and there was light. And this was the first day.

On the second day, God separated the land from the waters. And this was the second day.

On the third day, he created the stars. And there is a basic error. How can there be light, if there were no stars to Project it? How could there be clarity, if there was no sun? How could there be clarity in the chaos, if there were no stars?

The science uprising to protest and asserts that 15 billion years ago, two particles were stirred into chaos, was cloned as one another, absolutely the same nuclear charge carrier. Until an additional particle emerged and caused the Big Bang. Starting from there it espandem universal particles, which continue to expand in our universe, Law of Einstein. But if we look at the Bible, we find that the creation refers only Earth, which is an insignificant planet. It is a planet devoid of any astronomical value.

The extraordinary English astrophysicist Sir James Jeans, to give an idea to us, that we are not masters in astronomy, he says for example: So we have a dimension, if we consider our Milky Way galaxy, just our galaxy, with the dimension that comes from extreme northern of north america till the southern end of South america, the solar system would be the size of a dime of Dollar and the Earth would have the dimension of the tip of a pin and the sun would have the volume of the pin head. So we have idea of the Earth’s nothing significant if we analyze us that our galaxy is poor. She has only 200 billion suns. There are approximately 100 million galaxies bigger than ours. And the Hubble telescope is photographing daily galaxies that appear and others who succumb to black holes

But we take the Bible literally: God, on the seventh day, when his work is finished, he took a cake mud and modeled the being, He breathed into his life, giving this being the name of Adam, made of sludge, created from clay. And after meditating, God realized, literal words, which was not good for the man to be alone. Made him fall asleep, he took out a rib and made the woman.

We will enter now in the absurd area. Why it would have to be a rib? For the woman was perpetually dependent upon man. It’s a chauvinistic vision of the Jewish doctrine. God is man. The first being  is to be a man, a woman is a piece of the man, that should pay obedience.

And I wonder if it was not good for man to live alone? Why did it not another being men of clay, breathed into him life and gave him a Partner? Why he gave a female companion?

So, God says to them: “Here is the paradise”, which was in a Region next of Mesopotamia. “Here’s everything you want, but you can not approach or penetrate the tree of wisdom of good and evil. ”

The light of psychology was a classic mistake of God, because all that is forbidden is gonna be desired. And that God is omniscient , he should already know what was about to to happen after.  Otherwise he is not  omniscient, one of God attributes, the capacity to know everything that there is to know, past, present and future.

Starting from that moment the paradise is now the tree. If he had not said anything, they never would come next to the tree. because it was a enormous paradise. Then the devil,took the form of a Serpent, female. The lords notice how say the German psychoanalyst Dr. Hanna Wolf, the tragedy male chauvinism. Comes the serpent seduced Eve, it was weak. And Eve seduced, seduces Adam, who was not weak, but he has been enticed and then they disobeyed God…  We note that this is a myth. is a legend that deserves any affection of a historical legend …
… So, at this point they realized that they were naked…psychologically, they discovered the sensuality, because the were naked…

And of course they covered the prudish parts and God appeared angered… It can not be God. The supreme mercy, the supreme wisdom. Angry with those two children? It’s like we get angry with our children just for being bearer of ignorance, and instead of guiding,  we complained, we punish, and he became repressed.

then, Godin desperation punishes them… And how? “Today From you shall eat the bread by the sweat of your face”, making work a disgrace, transformed work into a punishment.

When Jesus told us, “my father until now works, and I also work“, because the work is psychotherapy. Let’s look at the retired who forcibly stop working, and of course makes the neurotic disorder of worthlessness, begin to consider themselves as marginalized People. And ours is a country of marginalized, because we believe that we already lived. We are already retired. The retired person has a disgrace timbre. And People talk like that, “he is retired, we are doing a favor for which he lives“.

Then, we’ll look at how the situation does not correspond to reality: “They were expelled and God punished the snake, forcing her to crawl…” It is another absurd. Incidentally, the snake walked on the tip of the tail? This to show the inconsistency. It is an analysis of psychological logic, it is not an analysis of ordinary criticism. It’s an Analysis..

Then they left the paradise, cohabiting and had their first child, a man. They had a second son, a man:  Cain and Abel.

Cain was bad, it was envy, was stingy. Abel was good, noble, was gentle.

We saw that this is a mythology that psychoanalysis interprets very well: It is the dark side and the light side of the creature, the duality of good and evil. They are not two people, as some try to apply us.

And God liked Abel, which is a negative father. He should like more  Cain. For who deserves love is the ill Person, not the healthyAbel did what pleased God, but the donation of Cain displeased him. So Cain was overcome with rage and killed his brother. I would have done the same Thing. Being despised by God, when I tried to please him? An while  he honor my brother, who was already beloved? This is a cruel prejudice! When we see in all social areas protection to the sick, the frail, the minority, the rejected, but our biblical God is an arbitrary being.

And when Cain killed, God appears and asks, “Where is your brother?” And found the crime, he expelled him. And he goes to other lands, where he married With whom? There were only five: father, mother and two brothers. Or rather,  four. With whom he got married? But our Protestant brothers would say: “For God nothing is impossible”. Go to it: For God nothing is impossible. Let´s say he got married.

And God took pity on Eve and replace your murdered child by another good one:  Seth. And they populated the earth…. With whom? There was only one woman, who was the own mother. I do not know if you already thought of that? I‘m trying to understand. Let us think together? With whom? If you discover, let me know.

“They populated the earth. And when the earth was populated, there was the predominance of evil and God repented that he had created man“. So it’s not perfect. He did not know what to do. Like us, the psychology tells us not to repent, taking a attitude of responsibility, nothing morbid regrets or self-blame. Releases of guilt and responsibility of the acts.

“He pronounces the flood”, but there was on earth one family that was fair: Noe, his wife and three children. Men: Shem, Ham and Japheth.

God comes to them and said:” I’ll send the flood. but I want to save you  and your Family. Build an ark and preserve into it a couple of each animal, that the land be repopulated again

Noah begins to build with three children the ark, which will never float, because it is an anti-nautical vessel because he did not knew nothing about marine engineering. But let’s say that God helped. He built and put a couple of animals of the whole earth. Those of  middle Brazi crocodiles, Jaguars from the Amazon, the polar bear, penguins They were all there. And Noah was placed in the ark, well organized   The lords see that it’s a children’s Story, even  ridiculous. And then he closed up the ark and caulking. And it rained for forty days and forty nights. The Ark floated and the waters flooded the earth… other nonsense. There has never been geologically a complete flood. There was always partial floods. Recently there was a wave of 30 meters in Indonesia and  several villages were damaged, because of a marine earthquake. China is still submerged in the waters of the river vyang ze Yang. We can say that there was a local flood. And 40 days of rains are not enough to flood even certain regions, so unless the entire terrestrial globe.

Noah sent out a dove, which did not returned. Three days later he sent another, which returned back, bringing in his beak a olive branch. other nonsense. Or there was the flood that put an end to all or,  some olive trees have been saved. Let’s pretend it is.

Noe opened the ark, sent the animals out, they were obeyed and went to the tropical climate, to the glacial weather to reproduce. Noah left the ark, with his three male children, and repopulated the land with whom?

The mother was the only woman, and she was already elderly. Because the children were adults.  At first I even accept the absurd. But twice is too much. But we se, it is a methodological proposal.

When we saw the history of Rome, Romulus and Remus fed by a wolf. And it’s one of the most fascinating psychological Image. When we see the story here in Brazil, which tells about the river Solimoes, designed by our Indians, which has the same characteristic of biblical history: Tupé ordered that the lands were devastated by the waters and Ceiciperi were fortunate enough to be warned. They climbed on a tree that was dragged. And when the waters went down, the river Solimoes was Born. And they nurtured of fruits, from the shadows, and protection of own tree 

This mythology is present in all villages of the planet, as what Carl Gustav Jung calls: The archetype from archetype of the  divinity. The process of evolution of our thinking, from primitive to lucid, rational  thinking from today, then we’ll see that there was not actually any sin because the carnal communion is not sinful. It is a physiological function for the reproduction of being. The imbalance is not sex.It is at the head of the wearer. The perversion is mental, it is moral, is not biological. Sex is similar to the stomach. With specific purpose, such as liver that secretes a substance, which secretes bile and certain hormones that reciprocally fertilizing, give rise to life.

It is the old prejudice of the atavism of individual imbalance, which he intends to self castrate, self punishment, the concept of sin. Then we move to the doctrines of psychological liberation, full of health,  in which there is no sin, and the positive experience, the negative experience. So do not be justified baptism. Born of water, it is taking a new Body .It is the embryogeny that explains us. Animal fertilization, specifically the human, is the  watery fertilization. When the sperm travels through the fallopian tube. It is a straw that will engage the ovule, another drop of gelatinous water. At the time that the ovule receives the sperm, which loses its tail, and defends itself the invasion of others, we have a drop of water with a quantum of energy. This drop of water goes up to fallopian tube, engages in the womb and begins to nurture amniotic  liquid, Water. The creature develops in adulthood has on the body 68 per cent of water, minerals and other substances that consolidate the matter. And born of water is composed of new physiological Body.

Then Jesus said, “It is necessary to be born again.” Here is evidenced the reincarnation.

And if we advance in the history of Christianity, we see that the Christians were reincarnationists.

Some Protestant brothers are saying that the Apostle Paul proclaimed that life is unique and then came the judgmentThen they  come back to us triumphant and ask, “What about reincarnation?”

But we never said that life is multiple. Life is unique. The physical existences are several.  The creature enters the body and out of the body without entering even get out of life, like we change clothes without being changing body.

When the apostle Paul said that after death comes judgment, of course it happens. When the person Divaldo Franco disembodied, will come the judgment of the acts of Divaldo Franco character.

The spirit who has lived  as Divaldo experiences will have to give evidence and shall elect recovery a new stage (Karma), but no longer as Divaldo. The spirit is the same with the nomenclature another personality.

To make it easier understanding, the personalities are multiple. Individuality is eternal, the spirit is unique. I’m not Divaldo Franco. I’m being temporary Divaldo Franco. I was being John, Anthony, Daisy or whoever. But I am the sum of  experiences as immortal Spirit.

The child enters from the culture, going to a maternal school. After the day care, then to School… The child is the same, but the formation of personalities are diverse… The elementary school, high school, university, MBA, doctorate, master’s degree. It is the same being in different stages of the evolution process.

Then, when they claim that comes judgment because it ends the life which is unique, they are giving one interpretation that does not correspond the truth. Because spiritism does not say several lives, but many physical existence.

 Later these disciples of Jesus created a neo-Platonic school of Alexandria. Plato was reincarnationist.
Socrates was reincarnationist. The neo-Platonic school gave us Origenes, who created the doctrine of principles, the basic doctrine of the church, which was convicted in 553. Tertullian, the author of apologetics. Pocleos, Jambricos,  Eusebio, Agostinho, and a whole elite of reincarnationists  thinkers.

In the year 553, the Roman Empire was divided into two wings: What had by capital, Rome in the West and who was the Byzantine capital Constantinople in the East.

Ruled over the empire of the East Justinian, who had been married to an admirable woman, but she had had a very frivolous and erratic life. Theodora had left a brothel. According to history, he married her and she was the empress who administered the empire. She managed to create a number of Problems to the Vatican. It is sufficient to read about her life to know about that.

She died in the year 548 and had asked her husband, at the first opportunity, to become heretical the doctrine of reincarnation. Because she did not wanted to return to rescue the errors she committed in the past. She had so much horror to her own  past which, according to history, she ordered the killing of 500 prostitutes, her fellow profession, not to have any inheritance.

And the husband who was in love with her in the year 547, imposes the pope Virgilio, who transferred to Constantinople, under penalty  to create the schism. The pope, to accommodate the situation, came and the emperor demanded to be done the second ecumenic council of Constantinopel. which was do not universal. The pope opposes, wished it was Rome. The emperor with weapons, threatened. And this council started in 52 and was up 58.

In the year 53, the theory of reincarnation was put on Trial. And as he was a very democratic emperor, he said: “Those who voted against, I will pass by the sword” and won 3-2.

The reincarnation was considered a heretical doctrine. Since then she was rejected. The Catholic,  Apostolic, Roman church not deny the reincarnation.

And I will thank any Catholic, that brings me an ecclesiastical document of a council, in which reincarnation is considered heresy except the year 553, that do not have value, because it was not of universal character.

here you can read the whole Ecumenic Council.  Document in German language: Council

Immediately, he began to pursue reincarnationists and, according to history, he killed more than one million at that time. The church was used to continue decimating reincarnationists and came to cuminar last century, when finished killing the Cathars who lived in France and some in Spain.

So, the reincarnation is a Christian  fact. When a person says that she  does not believe in it, because of her Religion, she demonstrates that does not know the history of her own Religion. 

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Christmas means hope

Pai Joaquim de Angola –

Medium Fernando Parada           Website: http://marcelamad.wix.com/mahamantra

Date: 24.12.2015

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The great Obligation of Umbanda is to allow the brother practice their own religion.

Respect the Religion  and the God of your next.

Even if your neighbor does not celebrate the birth of Jesus, Jesus will be born in his heart and also in yours.

The name of Jesus I will translate with the word hope.

Because hope is the last word that dies. Hope is the birth of a better day.

With these twisted words I have, I wish this x-mas evening there is not so much killing of animals.

I wish you guys much happiness. Not of giving Gift, but to be present with your family, with your loved ones and even your little animals.

It is not to give Gift but to be present and be presentBe present on the day of Advent, before God, before yours.

This is the greatest gift you can give God: Being present.

That´s it my children. And a Merry Christmas to all of you.

Pai Joaquim de Angola

Milady Mulambo about Religion

Abandon a religion is not necessary to leave the religion, but change the practice of thinking
Continue in your religion, but be tolerant with the religion of your brother, your neighboor or your next.
You should search the truth, leaving the lies behind.

Be honest, follow the heart, so you guys will not go wrong. Then, few years later you gonna say was the best dicision you have done.

Maria Mulambo

Espírit: Pombagira Maria Mulambo – Médium: Diego Garcia

Dialogue 318 – Youtube: https://youtu.be/bLjQMgd5hpk

Maria Mulambo: Whatever is done with love and affection, many people will come to help, so that external influences do not disturb or harm you. So, there is no need for religion to do good and help others. Why is not possible to sit at a table a catholic, an espirit an umbandist, a Jew or whatever the religion he belongs, come together and help those in need?

Unfortunately the religion became a a dispute between peoples.

Oh, am so happy my medium left the spiritual center.

Jefferson: How can you say that? Do you mean a Kardecism center? (The reporter belongs to a Kardecism center)

Maria Mulambo: Yes, I mean all. Kardecism and Umbanda! Because the religion locks you in their dogmas. The religion was formed to raise certain things, but then people do not grow as immortal spirits, which are part of. And all concept. It’s all a way of interpretation, and the lack of interpretation of the whole generates prejudice, hypocrisy, false concepts of love.

Jefferson: There is a wise man who says: We are all victims of our own culture.

Maria Mulambo: Yes, that´s Right. How Eshu Caveira says: Nobody accept eachother. Everyone wants to to impose their opinion, trying to change the other. Those who do not have the strength to impose, are those who feel oppressed, rejecting themself, trying to mold according to those imposed by others. And so go on…

Jefferson: As example, if a person was born in a Jewish family, it is natural she be growing and living the family traditions, according to her culture and religion.

Maria Mulambo: Yes. And if she feels attracted to Jesus … What’s gonna happen? Will give her much trouble, which may generate a family destruction because of the religion.

A father who will beat a child, or a child who will grow up, rebelling against family… All this because of a religion.

Jefferson: In fact, in the background is due to lack of tolerance his father, so the religion will be transformed into proof.

Maria Mulambo: They find themselves in the forms, and not the essence. Thus losing all the beautiful teaching of the Torah of the Jewish Bible-

So, the religions attack other religions, coming generate conflict because of Allah, Jesus, Buddha and many others. But, the beautiful teaching inside each Bible or Book, no one wants to follow, because it is easier to see the mistakes of others, than to look the own mirror , inside himself.

Jefferson: To finish our conversation. What is your motivation? Where did you get this goal and how long it will last?

Maria Mulambo: You say about my experience as spirit and the line that I follow? I don´t know.

As I said before, we don´t have this kind of thinking as you incarnated. We will follow as it is planned, without worrying about the future.

Perhaps one day the human beings on Earth will have no necessity to have an Eshu nearby.

Maybe one day the earth will evolve morally, so doing not more need to Eshu. That would be very nice, very good. Not only for you but for us too.

Jefferson: Now a last question. When someone does evil with the help of a spirit. This evil can return as karma, for any member of the family?

Maria Mulambo: It depends. Has that popular saying that says: “Future generations pay the wrong done by the ancestors”, It does have a real principle in that, but is not an exact science at all the events, because fenónemos are not exact sciences.

Jefferson: It is true that people can make pacts with the devil to succeed in life?

Maria Mulambo: (she laughs) talking about religion again?

Jefferson: No, no. No, inky black spirit (darkness spirit) and agreement, how to sell own soul…

Maria Mulambo: What masonry hides behind it all? No one has any idea…

Jefferson: You talk ill of religions without fear of being reprimanded in the spirit world. Why?

Maria Mulambo: Who is on the side of the law, doing good, should not be afraid. The work is based on love.

Jefferson: Please give us your last message.

Maria Mulambo: Quite complicated question.

The power of the obvious. The obvious is stamped on the face, but you always  reject the reality of the moment. So, pay more attention the signs and see where they are wanting to take you. In fact, you are already walking but your mind does not let you delivery of your heart. So give yourself and see this way, that is screaming.

Be honest, follow the heart, so you guys will not go wrong. Then, few years later you gonna say, it was the best dicision you have done.

Less cling forms, materialism and look more the essence. Perceives all that is happening around you, especially on the religion concept, without prejudice.

To the umbandist followers, read the spiritism book of Kardec. Read more the Bible and Jesus Gospel of Mathew, Mark, Luke and John. Look for other philosophies, open your horizons, thus dropping the religious prejudice.

Get out of complacency and open the mind to new.

Abandon a religion is not necessary to leave the religion, but change the practice of thinking

Continue in your religion, but be tolerant with the religion of your brother, your neighboor or your next.

You should search the truth, leaving the lies behind. Thank you very much. Was nice to talk to you.

Salve!