Judas Gospel – Interpretation of Eshu Ventania

This gospel of Judas is closest to reality. He does not have the coolness that the human being has placed. They did Jesus as a serious man. Jesus was happy. Be happy you too. Exu Ventania

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Dialogue of Judas – II

To read the 1st. Part, please click here: Judas Gospel I

Exu Ventania – Medium: Fernando Parada Website: http://marcelamad.wix.com/mahamantra

Reporter: Mr. Jefferson Viscardi

Website: www.dialogocomosespiritos.com/

INTRODUCTION: INCIPIT
The secret account of the revelation that Jesus spoke in conversation with Judas Iscariot during a week three days before he celebrated Passover.

THE EARTHLY MINISTRY OF JESUS
When Jesus appeared on earth, he performed miracles and great wonders for the salvation of humanity. And since some [walked] in the way of righteousness while others walked in their transgressions, the twelve disciples were called.
He began to speak with them about the mysteries beyond the world and what would
take place at the end. Often he did not appear to his disciples as himself, but he was found
among them as a child.
SCENE 1: Jesus dialogues with his disciples: The prayer of thanksgiving or the eucharist
One day he was with his disciples in Judea, and he found them gathered together and
seated in pious observance. When he [approached] his disciples, [34] gathered together and seated and offering a prayer of thanksgiving over the bread, [he] laughed.
The disciples said to [him], “Master, why are you laughing at [our] prayer of
thanksgiving? We have done what is right.”
He answered and said to them, “I am not laughing at you. <You> are not doing this
because of your own will but because it is through this that your god [will be] praised.”
They said, “Master, you are […] the son of our god.”
Jesus said to them, “How do you know me? Truly [I] say to you, no generation of the
people that are among you will know me.”

THE DISCIPLES BECOME ANGRY
When his disciples heard this, they started getting angry and infuriated and began
blaspheming against him in their hearts.
When Jesus observed their lack of [understanding, he said] to them, “Why has this
agitation led you to anger? Your god who is within you and […] [35] have provoked you
to anger [within] your souls. [Let] any one of you who is [strong enough] among human beings bring out the perfect human and stand before my face.”
They all said, “We have the strength.”
But their spirits did not dare to stand before [him], except for Judas Iscariot. He was
able to stand before him, but he could not look him in the eyes, and he turned his face
away.
Judas [said] to him, “I know who you are and where you have come from. You are
from the immortal realm of Barbelo. And I am not worthy to utter the name of the one
who has sent you.”

JESUS SPEAKS TO JUDAS PRIVATELY
Knowing that Judas was reflecting upon something that was exalted, Jesus said to him,
“Step away from the others and I shall tell you the mysteries of the kingdom. It is
possible for you to reach it, but you will grieve a great deal. [36] For someone else will
replace you, in order that the twelve [disciples] may again come to completion with their god.”
Judas said to him, “When will you tell me these things, and [when] will the great day
of light dawn for the generation?”
But when he said this, Jesus left him.
SCENE 2: Jesus appears to the disciples again
The next morning, after this happened, Jesus [appeared] to his disciples again.#
They said to him, “Master, where did you go and what did you do when you left us?”
Jesus said to them, “I went to another great and holy generation.”
His disciples said to him, “Lord, what is the great generation that is superior to us and
holier than us, that is not now in these realms?”
When Jesus heard this, he laughed and said to them, “Why are you thinking in your
hearts about the strong and holy generation? [37] Truly [I] say to you, no one born [of]
this aeon will see that [generation], and no host of angels of the stars will rule over that generation, and no person of mortal birth can associate with it, because that generation does not come from […] which has become […]. The generation of people among [you] is from the generation of humanity […] power, which [… the] other powers […] by [which] you rule.”
When [his] disciples heard this, they each were troubled in spirit. They could not say a
word. Another day Jesus came up to [them]. They said to [him], “Master, we have seen you in a [vision], for we have had great [dreams …] night […].”
[He said], “Why have [you … when] <you> have gone into hiding?” [38]
THE DISCIPLES SEE THE TEMPLE AND DISCUSS IT
They [said, “We have seen] a great [house with a large] altar [in it, and] twelve
men—they are the priests, we would say—and a name; and a crowd of people is waiting at that altar, [until] the priests [… and receive] the offerings. [But] we kept waiting.”
[Jesus said], “What are [the priests] like?”
They [said, “Some …] two weeks; [some] sacrifice their own children, others their
wives, in praise [and] humility with each other; some sleep with men; some are involved in [slaughter]; some commit a multitude of sins and deeds of lawlessness. And the men who stand [before] the altar invoke your [name], [39] and in all the deeds of their deficiency, the sacrifices are brought to completion […].”
After they said this, they were quiet, for they were troubled.
JESUS OFFERS AN ALLEGORICAL INTERPRETATION OF THE VISION OF THE TEMPLE
Jesus said to them, “Why are you troubled? Truly I say to you, all the priests who stand
before that altar invoke my name. Again I say to you, my name has been written on this […] of the generations of the stars through the human generations. [And they] have planted trees without fruit, in my name, in a shameful manner.”
Jesus said to them, “Those you have seen receiving the offerings at the altar—that is
who you are. That is the god you serve, and you are those twelve men you have seen. The cattle you have seen brought for sacrifice are the many people you lead astray [40] before that altar. […] will stand and make use of my name in this way, and generations of the pious will remain loyal to him. After hi another man will stand there from [the fornicators], and another [will] stand there from the slayers of children, and another from those who sleep with men, and those who abstain, and the rest of the people of pollution and lawlessness and error, and those who say, ‘We are like angels’; they are the stars that bring everything to its conclusion. For to the human generations it has been said, ‘Look, God has received your sacrifice from the hands of a priest’—that is, a minister of error. But it is the Lord, the Lord of the universe, who commands, ‘On the last day they will be put to shame.’” [41]
Jesus said [to them], “Stop sac[rificing …] which you have […] over the altar, since
they are over your stars and your angels and have already come to their conclusion there.
So let them be [ensnared] before you, and let them go [—about 15 lines missing—]
generations […]. A baker cannot feed all creation [42] under [heaven]. And […] to them […] and […] to us and […]. Jesus said to them, “Stop struggling with me. Each of you has his own star, and every[body—about 17 lines missing—] [43] in […] who has come [… spring] for the tree […] of this aeon […] for a time […] but he has come to water God’s paradise, and the [generation] that will last, because [he] will not defile the [walk of life of] that generation, but […] for all eternity.”
JUDAS ASKS JESUS ABOUT THAT GENERATION AND HUMAN GENERATIONS
Judas said to [him, “Rabb]i, what kind of fruit does this generation produce?”
Jesus said, “The souls of every human generation will die. When these people,
however, have completed the time of the kingdom and the spirit leaves them, their bodies will die but their souls will be alive, and they will be taken up.”
Judas said, “And what will the rest of the human generations do?”
Jesus said, “It is impossible [44] to sow seed on [rock] and harvest its fruit. [This] is
also the way […] the [defiled] generation […] and corruptible Sophia […] the hand that has created mortal people, so that their souls go up to the eternal realms above. [Truly] I say to you, […] angel […] power will be able to see that […] these to whom […] holy generations […].”
After Jesus said this, he departed.
SCENE 3: Judas recounts a vision and Jesus responds
Judas said, “Master, as you have listened to all of them, now also listen to me. For I have seen a great vision.”
When Jesus heard this, he laughed and said to him, “You thirteenth spirit, why do you
try so hard? But speak up, and I shall bear with you.”
Judas said to him, “In the vision I saw myself as the twelve disciples were stoning me
and [45] persecuting [me severely]. And I also came to the place where […] after you. I
saw [a house …], and my eyes could not [comprehend] its size. Great people were
surrounding it, and that house <had> a roof of greenery, and in the middle of the house was [a crowd—two lines missing—], saying, ‘Master, take me in along with these people.’”
[Jesus] answered and said, “Judas, your star has led you astray.” He continued, “No
person of mortal birth is worthy to enter the house you have seen, for that place is
reserved for the holy. Neither the sun nor the moon will rule there, nor the day, but the holy will abide there always, in the eternal realm with the holy angels. Look, I have explained to you the mysteries of the kingdom [46] and I have taught you about the error of the stars; and […] send it […] on the twelve aeons.”
JUDAS ASKS ABOUT HIS OWN FATE
Judas said, “Master, could it be that my seed is under the control of the rulers?”
Jesus answered and said to him, “Come, that I [—two lines missing—], but that you
will grieve much when you see the kingdom and all its generation.”
When he heard this, Judas said to him, “What good is it that I have received it? For
you have set me apart for that generation.”
Jesus answered and said, “You will become the thirteenth, and you will be cursed by
the other generations—and you will come to rule over them. In the last days they will
curse your ascent [47] to the holy [generation].”
JESUS TEACHES JUDAS ABOUT COSMOLOGY: THE SPIRIT AND THE SELF-GENERATED
Jesus said, “[Come], that I may teach you about [secrets] no person [has] ever seen. For there exists a great and boundless realm, whose extent no generation of angels has seen, [in which] there is [a] great invisible [Spirit], which no eye of an angel has ever seen, no thought of the heart has ever comprehended, and it was never called by any name.
“And a luminous cloud appeared there. He said, ‘Let an angel come into being as my
attendant.’
“A great angel, the enlightened divine Self-Generated, emerged from the cloud.
Because of him, four other angels came into being from another cloud, and they became attendants for the angelic Self-Generated. The Self-Generated said, [48] ‘Let […] come into being […],’ and it came into being […]. And he [created] the first luminary to reign over him. He said, ‘Let angels come into being to serve [him],’ and myriads without number came into being. He said, ‘[Let] an enlightened aeon come into being,’ and he came into being. He created the second luminary [to] reign over him, together with myriads of angels without number, to offer service. That is how he created the rest of the enlightened aeons. He made them reign over them, and he created for them myriads of angels without number, to assist them.

ADAMAS AND THE LUMINARIES
“Adamas was in the first luminous cloud that no angel has ever seen among all those
called ‘God.’ He [49] […] that […] the image […] and after the likeness of [this] angel.
He made the incorruptible [generation] of Seth appear […] the twelve […] the twentyfour
[…]. He made seventy-two luminaries appear in the incorruptible generation, in
accordance with the will of the Spirit. The seventy-two luminaries themselves made three hundred sixty luminaries appear in the incorruptible generation, in accordance with the will of the Spirit, that their number should be five for each.
“The twelve aeons of the twelve luminaries constitute their father, with six heavens for each aeon, so that there are seventy-two heavens for the seventy-two luminaries, and for each [50] [of them five] firmaments, [for a total of] three hundred sixty [firmaments …].
They were given authority and a [great] host of angels [without number], for glory and
adoration, [and after that also] virgin spirits, for glory and [adoration] of all the aeons and the heavens and their firmaments.
THE COSMOS, CHAOS, AND THE UNDERWORLD
“The multitude of those immortals is called the cosmos— that is, perdition—by the
Father and the seventy-two luminaries who are with the Self-Generated and his seventytwo aeons. In him the first human appeared with his incorruptible powers. And the aeon that appeared with his generation, the aeon in whom are the cloud of knowledge and the angel, is called [51] El. […] aeon […] after that […] said, ‘Let twelve angels come into being [to] rule over chaos and the [underworld].’ And look, from the cloud there
appeared an [angel] whose face flashed with fire and whose appearance was defiled with blood. His name was Nebro, which means ‘rebel’; others call him Yaldabaoth. Another angel, Saklas, also came from the cloud. So Nebro created six angels—as well as Saklas—to be assistants, and these produced twelve angels in the heavens, with each one receiving a portion in the heavens.
THE RULERS AND ANGELS
“The twelve rulers spoke with the twelve angels: ‘Let each of you [52] […] and let them
[…] generation [—one line lost—] angels’:
The first is [S]eth, who is called Christ.
The [second] is Harmathoth, who is […].
The [third] is Galila.
The fourth is Yobel.
The fifth [is] Adonaios.
These are the five who ruled over the underworld, and first of all over chaos.
THE CREATION OF HUMANITY
“Then Saklas said to his angels, ‘Let us create a human being after the likeness and after the image.’ They fashioned Adam and his wife Eve, who is called, in the cloud, Zoe. For by this name all the generations seek the man, and each of them calls the woman by these names. Now, Sakla did not [53] com[mand …] except […] the gene[rations …] this […].
And the [ruler] said to Adam, ‘You shall live long, with your children.’”
JUDAS ASKS ABOUT THE DESTINY OF ADAM AND HUMANITY
Judas said to Jesus, “[What] is the long duration of time that the human being will live?”
Jesus said, “Why are you wondering about this, that Adam, with his generation, has lived his span of life in the place where he has received his kingdom, with longevity with his ruler?”
Judas said to Jesus, “Does the human spirit die?”
Jesus said, “This is why God ordered Michael to give the spirits of people to them as a
loan, so that they might offer service, but the Great One ordered Gabriel to grant spirits to the great generation with no ruler over it—that is, the spirit and the soul. Therefore, the [rest] of the souls [54] [—one line missing—].
JESUS DISCUSSES THE DESTRUCTION OF THE WICKED WITH JUDAS AND OTHERS
“[…] light [—nearly two lines missing—] around […] let […] spirit [that is] within you dwell in this [flesh] among the generations of angels. But God caused knowledge to be [given] to Adam and those with him, so that the kings of chaos and the underworld might not lord it over them.”
Judas said to Jesus, “So what will those generations do?”
Jesus said, “Truly I say to you, for all of them the stars bring matters to completion.
When Saklas completes the span of time assigned for him, their first star will appear with the generations, and they will finish what they said they would do. Then they will fornicate in my name and slay their children [55] and they will […] and [—about six and a half lines missing—] my name, and he will […] your star over the [thir]teenth aeon.”
After that Jesus [laughed].
[Judas said], “Master, [why are you laughing at us]?”
[Jesus] answered [and said], “I am not laughing [at you] but at the error of the stars, because these six stars wander about with these five combatants, and they all will be destroyed along with their creatures.”

JESUS SPEAKS OF THOSE WHO ARE BAPTIZED, AND JUDAS’S BETRAYAL
Judas said to Jesus, “Look, what will those who have been baptized in your name do?”
Jesus said, “Truly I say [to you], this baptism [56] […] my name [—about nine lines
missing—] to me. Truly [I] say to you, Judas, [those who] offer sacrifices to Saklas […]
God [—three lines missing—] everything that is evil.
“But you will exceed all of them. For you will sacrifice the man that clothes me.
Already your horn has been raised, your wrath has been kindled, your star has shown brightly, and your heart has […]. [57]
“Truly […] your last […] become [—about two and a half lines missing—], grieve
[—about two lines missing—] the ruler, since he will be destroyed. And then the image of the great generation of Adam will be exalted, for prior to heaven, earth, and the angels, that generation, which is from the eternal realms, exists. Look, you have been told everything. Lift up your eyes and look at the cloud and the light within it and the stars surrounding it. The star that leads the way is your star.”
Judas lifted up his eyes and saw the luminous cloud, and he entered it. Those standing
on the ground heard a voice coming from the cloud, saying, [58] […] great generation
[…] … image […] [—about five lines missing—].
CONCLUSION: JUDAS BETRAYS JESUS
[…] Their high priests murmured because [he] had gone into the guest room for his
prayer. But some scribes were there watching carefully in order to arrest him during the prayer, for they were afraid of the people, since he was regarded by all as a prophet.
They approached Judas and said to him, “What are you doing here? You are Jesus’
disciple.”
Judas answered them as they wished. And he received some money and handed him over to them.
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Jefferson: So, you said you would not follow the man (Jesus), but his teachings and have the comprehension of what he taught. What taught, That You hear? And if you could go back to the time, you would hear again?

Ventania: Love God above all things. Because I loved money. Do not take His holy name in vain, because I believed in the gods of my mother and the ancient gods of my father. Maybe not follow that frivolous life I lived … and be simpler because his words were very simple and very easy to understand. Remove the blindness of the blind does not mean to make him see, but that he sees, there is eternal life, that he is at that moment simply paying for something he did and it is necessary for the purification of his spirit. I believe I would have been spiritualist at the time. But everything in its time.

Jefferson: Mr. Ventania, I’ll make the reading of the Gospel of Judas. There are few pages and if I have any questions, I’ll ask. If you have any comments, you can stop me too, okay?
Ventania: Yes.

Jefferson: So, this document I have is from Fraternity Rose Crucia Antiqua, tradition Rui racoxo.
Begins like this:

INTRODUCTION: INCIPIT
The secret account of the revelation that Jesus spoke in conversation with Judas Iscariot during a week three days before he celebrated Passover.

Do You want to do some observation on this?
Ventania: Yes, I agree with all that. Revelations were made, many. He revealed all about the secret of life on other planes and that this world is not the only one that God has created and that God is not just a father, but also a mother.
He taught it to the 3 major early follower. As therefore Judas was one.

Jefferson: Why did he only spoke to Judas and not told all this to others?

Ventania: He spoke to Andrew, and spoke to Mary of Magdala. They were the first. But because he selected those who had different functions. Each with its function. He took those most next, which had conditions to change the story.

Jefferson: But what about Peter, James?
Ventania: Peter was a weak man, who fled and denied. They were creating and increasing the papers over time. And there are also lies. They say the body of Pedro lies inside the Vatican. Petrus was never in the Vatican. Men need to pick up relics and say: This is Peter.
Peter had good words, they all had good words. they were all example of pride for Jesus and they all suffered.

Jefferson:

THE EARTHLY MINISTRY OF JESUS
When Jesus appeared on earth, he performed miracles and great wonders for the salvation of humanity. And since some [walked] in the way of righteousness while others walked in their transgressions, the twelve disciples were called.

Ventania: He did nothing for the salvation of humanity and people need proof and he gave evidence. Like other Avatars also gave evidence. Proceed.

Jefferson: Oh, I do not know why it came to my mind “Saibaba”
Ventania: It’s one.

Jefferson: It was an Avatar?
Ventania: Yes. There Avatars rising all the time.

When the situation for you guys here, saying a very popular term, is brave, God in his infinite mercy sends his Avatars. Indigo children are few. They are the first who came in favor.
If you depend on these children, all water on the planet will end. Do you know why? Because they so much defend the earth, love, peace and union, that their mouths would be dry. And they need a lot of water. There are many Avatars among these children. You can be one of them. You believe that it is not?

Jefferson: Yes, I believe am not one.
Ventania:  Look ou 60 years of your earth existence.

Jefferson:Oh my God
Ventania: When you are not here anymore, then you gonna know who you are. 

Jefferson:

He began to speak with them about the mysteries beyond the world and what would take place at the end. Often he did not appear to his disciples as himself, but he was found among them as a child.

Ventania: The best way to understand God is on the form of a child. He spoke of infantile form and playing. During Play is said many truths.
If you observe the cult of Caputinos, they have an image of the Child Jesus of Prague, they say that Jesus should be understood as a child, and the children have purity. then at that point I made the allusion to the crystal children. Then he had all these spirits all these powers in a common spirit. He was indigo, he was avatar, it was crystal. He was a superior being, like other avatars.

It does not exist, a final day, the end of the world. I will be very cold: This world can be destroyed in 3 ways:

The first way: If it is hit by a comet or another planet
Second one is self-destroyed by their wars and nuclear weapons
and the third, with a new era of ice or fire.
So, there is not a day of reckoning. You will determine when will be the day of reckoning. Every time you guys pollutes a river, every time you down a tree, you are coming closer to the final judgment.
But not your final judgment. Your happens every time after disembodies (after death) through the court of your conscience, but the final judgment of the world, that suffers from the existence of these grasshoppers are you guys.

Jefferson: It‘s a damn hungry. Eat everything we see ahead.

Ventania: Not only eat. See, Kill, steal and destroy. The anti-Christ is the human being. He is antichrist. But pretends to be nice.
But in the court of his conscience, as I always say, the real hammer of heretics that is your consciousness, will show which was right and which was wrong.

Jefferson: And here, says that he showed what would happen at the end. You’re saying this: End correspond to the total destruction of the planet. But you have something to say about the possible third world war, nuclear war that can be carried out or the extra-terrestrials will not allow this to happen?
Ventania: If there is merit, interstellar beings managed to prevent. We are infiltrators within large nations.
You can also have an impact of a large planet, but also there is great technologies to divert them. Your  philosophy not think the machines that exist.
Because the only thing that human beings were able to create were machines for destroying.
I will give an example: I existed in France in the13th century and there was a way to kill people, in fact, demand the truth, where you tied both feet of a man in two cypress trees and loosened the cypress trees, and one was torn away.
Then, the human being is far more concerned in creating destruction, instead congregation.
Jefferson: Why it is what most defines the character?
Ventania:  because he disrupts the initial plan. Now I will be very cold,
Lucifer is eyeing this question because Lucifer said, “it is possible to balance reason and emotion. And in this, his name was put into play. Therefore, do not think that Lucifer is a demon. Demon are you, Demon is the human being.
Lucifer is a being far superior and he did not turn up the blessed waters hosteas and oils from anoint.
He is an interplanetary, even coming to the aid of other orbs that are suffering the danger of collision from other celestial bodies. So do not treat him as if he were a devil, but as co-creator of the human race.
If he does not do it neither michaelica race, you guys would only be neanderthales and me too, because when I came I decided to incarnate in human beings, co-created to perfection.
I can give other creations also, to quote Babylon, Sumeria Henel, Henke.But there is an attempt by the higher plane, to balance the human being. And you are with, let’s say, the knife and the cheesein your hand.
You guys can plant beautiful roses in your gardens as guys can exterminate your own world.
Jefferson: Oh my God!

SCENE 1: Jesus dialogues with his disciples: The prayer of thanksgiving or the eucharist
One day he was with his disciples in Judea, and he found them gathered together and
seated in pious observance. When he [approached] his disciples, [34] gathered together
and seated and offering a prayer of thanksgiving over the bread, [he] laughed.
The disciples said to [him], “Master, why are you laughing at [our] prayer of
thanksgiving? We have done what is right.”
He answered and said to them, “I am not laughing at you. <You> are not doing this
because of your own will but because it is through this that your god [will be] praised.”
They said, “Master, you are […] the son of our god.”
Jesus said to them, “How do you know me? Truly [I] say to you, no generation of the
people that are among you will know me.”

Ventania: Not use to bless the bread, falsely, as many are blessed only by mouthwhile these very who bless is destroying the plantation fields from his brotherof incarnation. So it should be placed a little more aware since that time. It is not bless, but become aware of planting. The future of the fields should be sown daily.

Jefferson:

THE DISCIPLES BECOME ANGRY
When his disciples heard this, they started getting angry and infuriated and began
blaspheming against him in their hearts.

Ventania: If the own disciples blasphemed, imagine these thousands of churches around here. They blaspheme against each other. Humans can not hear the word “no”

Jefferson: Wow! They began blaspheming Jesus in their hearts. Much cowardice, huh?

Ventania: blaspheme the heart is worse than talking. Cursing, you can curse the creator, you can curse Jesus, but you can not curse the holy spirit that dwells within you.
For if you do not know what the holy spirit is a myriad of very superior beings working in the practice of good. So there are many spirits saints.

Jefferson:

When Jesus observed their lack of [understanding, he said] to them, “Why has this agitation led you to anger? Your god who is within you and […] [35] have provoked you to anger [within] your souls. [Let] any one of you who is [strong enough] among human beings bring out the perfect human and stand before my face.” They all said, “We have the strength.”

I wonder, it was difficult to deal with. Today, sometimes, there is this culture shock, imagine a being as evolved as Jesus to be patient and stay there with guys who, even nor child were, right?

Ventania: Yes, so he had to go down to the level of children to talk to them.

Jefferson. Ah understood.

“Why has this agitation led you to anger? Your god who is within you and […] [35] have provoked youto anger [within] your souls. [Let] any one of you who is [strong enough] among human beings bring out the perfect human and stand before my face.”
They all said, “We have the strength.”

Ventania: The gods who dwell in each of them. In fact, are programs that are placed so that there was a balance between love and reason.
In that moment of hatred, they have already lost their programming. They were tested all the time.

Jefferson: Jesus talking, as if going over the ego and talking straight to the soul of them, right?

Ventania: Yes.

Jefferson:

But their spirits did not dare to stand before [him], except for Judas Iscariot.

Ventania: That was true. Who understood much more than others.

Jefferson: he wanted to therefore ending the oppression of Rome, but he was sincere, with a benevolent purpose.

Ventania: Yes. Many times he was taken to a small room where Jesus taught many truths to him. For they still had that feeling of revolt. Judas not. Judas had the feeling of understanding.

Jefferson: I imagine if you had a group of people and had one among them that said what he thought, even if it was against my thoughts, but if it were true and sincere, I appreciate it.

Ventania: “My dear, in the land of the blind men, who have eye is king. On land of ignorant, one who understands is called devil “

Jefferson: Wow! because sometimes causes envy and the person feels as tied hands,
there’s nothing she can do because they are knowledge that the spirit acquired
other incarnations. Can not match ...

Ventania: Often spirits are sick, ill. And these twelve apostles, I say again, thirteen were selected because they represented the human being in its evolution and involution: Quality and defects.
Jefferson: Our Lord!. so lets go:

But their spirits did not dare to stand before [him], except for Judas Iscariot. He was
able to stand before him, but he could not look him in the eyes, and he turned his face
away.
Judas [said] to him, “I know who you are and where you have come from. You are
from the immortal realm of Barbelo. And I am not worthy to utter the name of the one
who has sent you.”

Ventania: Barbelo or Sophia, which is a name given to gnostic God which is represented on a shape of a woman or through a peach tree, wherein each of the Avatars down on the to earth as a result. So, they would be the fruits of Barbelo.
I will advance a information for you, I know that if I was incarnated, I would be stoned Judas reincarnated in the personality of a man in Europe who separated and revolutionized Christianity, at the moment there was much persecution of Catholics to others. Sects to the other thoughts.

Jefferson: Who? Martin Luther?

Ventania: Catholic wanted the human was illiterate. As this time the Catholic was being influenced by a very low spirituality. Reptilian, yes, but from low vibration.
He was a great example, which separated the two regions: One with reason, and the other with love.
What is with reason, thinks’re the reason, still thinking that is the universal Roman Catholic.

Everything simply repeats. Just the names are changed. You’re understanding me?

Jefferson: Yes. I would like to ask if you’re talking about the Protestant Reformation?

Ventania: Yes, it has been revealed: Judas was Martin. It was revolutionary at all times that he reincarnated.

Jefferson: Look. Then today, sometimes a single person without any influence, might even have been one of the apostles of Christ, be in front of us and we do not recognize ?.

Ventania: Oftentimes. And writing important books. Especially during the Enlightenment period. This same Martin Lutheralways the Roman Catholic Church teaches to hate Judas. And now she continues, hating Martin Luther. People have died for it. Today, they are simply putting hot towels. And I fear, until times arriving. because those who are moved by emotion are multiplying as if they were rats.

Jefferson: Mr. Ventania, it seems at the moment that warmed conversation in that place and called Jesus, saying that Judas was able to get up … It seems that some paranormal phenomenon ‘happened in that room.

Ventania: Yes, Lucifer appeared. Did you know that Lucifer and Jesus are two parts of the same coin?

Jefferson: No.

Ventania: They are brothers. are all fruits of the same creator god. They are brothers. Lucifer does not have the intention to kill, steal and destroy. Who does this, are the children of the Earth, incarnated here. He analyzes. He is a scientist, he is a wise man.
So, basically Judas showed that Jesus had two sides: the side of the emotion and the side of reason. The two have to work together, there must be a balance.

Jefferson: If I were there I would be well seated.

Ventania: Yes. And I tell you one thing: Lucifer is beautiful. Lucifer has a black hair, like the sieve of a horse. His eyes are sparkling. His skin is white like snow. His teeth are an ivory necklace. He uses shades between black and sub-tones of gray. It is extremely beautiful. and at that time you have to understand, it is not only the white light that is good, but but the black light, too. They are two polarities necessary. When you ascend a candle, it will generate a shadow. Understand this allegory.

It has nothing of animal form in Lucifer. But if he wants he can take this animal form. He may appear on the form of any animal, because he predates the creation of you. He may mimic anything. Not only him but also Jesus.
Jesus often appears and you guys not realize … often asking for money, often asking for a charity, and you deny Him. It was not twice that he was denied. He is denied every day.
So, today one of you will betray me … every day, you are betraying this man.

Jefferson: He has the wisdom, The elevation both moral and scientific to materialize a physical body and do some apparition. Or are you saying that this is not possible?

Ventania: It is possible to shape any body, if you have reached an evolutionary spiritual degree. When Jesus approached to the cities, the poor felt his presence, nor were hungry and their illnesses were cured, because he is an enlightened being. 500 meters away, you already knew his coming.

Jefferson:

JESUS SPEAKS TO JUDAS PRIVATELY
Knowing that Judas was reflecting upon something that was exalted, Jesus said to him,“Step away from the others and I shall tell you the mysteries of the kingdom.

Ventania: Not everyone was prepared to listen to his words

Jefferson:

“It is possible for you to reach it, but you will grieve a great deal. [36] For someone else will
replace you, in order that the twelve [disciples] may again come to completion with their
god.”

And here God is written tiny.

Ventania: Yes. The individual god of each. The holy spirit that inhabits each. The mustard seed

Jefferson: A moment, let’s get this straight …

“It is possible for you to reach it, but you will grieve a great deal. For someone else will
replace you, in order that the twelve [disciples] may again come to completion with their
god.” ou seja: Reencarnation. Is it that?

Ventania: Yes.

Jefferson:

Judas said to him, “When will you tell me these things, and [when] will the great day of light dawn for the generation?”
But when he said this, Jesus left him.

Ventania: This issue is very delicate. Because, for some, that day light is coming now. For others, the darkness will be eternal. Until you learn the difference between love and reason. And get balance.

Jefferson:

Judas said to him, “When will you tell me these things, and [when] will the great day of light dawn for the generation?”

This question reminds me of one that did for Chico Xavier (the medium) when a view said, “Chico, have you been received or had any meeting
physical with a brother from another planet? (E.T). Chico Xavier looked at him and said, “Later, when we’re alone, I will speak in particular about.” But he, Chico never mentioned it again.

Ventania: You can not talk about certain issues, because, due to simplicity and poverty of the foundations of the crest churches, if you deny his death, denying the resurrection, and say that the sky does not give laps around the earth, you can let the crazy people. Imagine to say that a few hundred years later, that there is life out of here (alien life).
It is best to stay within its simplicity and very small belief.
So, the two cases are similar: Neither Judas nor the visitor from Chico Xavier had answers. So we have to wait and we wait.

Ventania: All this was to explain that there is life out of here. This here, the Earth is just a small colony. And very poorly maintained.

Jefferson: Caveirinha says that the planet earth is the great galactic slum.
But back to the topic. You sorry.

 

Jefferson:

Judas said to him, “When will you tell me these things, and [when] will the great day
of light dawn for the generation?”
But when he said this, Jesus left him.
SCENE 2: Jesus appears to the disciples again
The next morning, after this happened, Jesus [appeared] to his disciples again.

Entao Jesus nao ficava o tempo todo com eles?

Ventania: é normal entre os avatares aparecer em diferentes lugares, mesmo estando ocupando um corpo só. Ocupar dois lugares no espaco. Isto acontecia com todos os avatares anteriores. Porque, quando ele nao estava em corpo, ele estava em ensinamento. Aparecer significa simplesmente ascender aquela lampada da consciencia, nao e signififcando que ele teria que estar fisico.

Mas, a ideia surgiu e ele entendeu. Apartir do momento que ele entendeu, Jesus apareceu.

Jefferson:

They said to him, “Master, where did you go and what did you do when you left us?”
Jesus said to them, “I went to another great and holy generation.”
His disciples said to him, “Lord, what is the great generation that is superior to us and
holier than us, that is not now in these realms?”
When Jesus heard this, he laughed and said to them,

Jesus liked to laugh, it is not, mr. ventania?

Ventania: He told the stories laughing. His teachings were a pantominia. He was very happy, he was very cheerful. And this is what captivates.

A serious teacher loses his students. There is need for empathy.

Jefferson: You are serious, however people like to hear you.

Ventania: It’s because I say things too … I would not say serious, but doubtful. And I try to bring down the foundations of those who are on the wrong track.

Jefferson: Controversial. And it activates a certain curiosity and the people end up liking it.

Ventania: Jesus learned to be humorous in his teachings to the east of the monks. Re-orient yourself.

Jefferson:

“Why are you thinking in your
hearts about the strong and holy generation? [37] Truly [I] say to you, no one born [of]
this aeon will see that [generation], and no host of angels of the stars will rule over that generation, and no person of mortal birth can associate with it, because that generation does not come from […] which has become […]. The generation of people among [you] is from the generation of humanity […] power, which [… the] other powers […] by [which] you rule.”

When [his] disciples heard this, they each were troubled in spirit. They could not say a
word.

Ventania: A new generation can be born of crossing each other, these evolved beings who are reincarnated here: Indigo, Crystal. And it can generate a new rasse, since humans do not disobey, because they already destroyed in wars, inquisitions, and destruction on the earth plane.

Jefferson:

From what I’m hearing and reading, it seems that it is a fact that love activates the DNA characteristics for future achievements.

Ventania: To be evolved, you need to balance intelligence and love. It turns out that there is this imbalance today. This was planted by own church and also by eastern nations who wish not to Their people know nothing. It is blindness. (keeping in the ignorance)

Jefferson:

Another day Jesus came up to [them]. They said to [him], “Master, we have seen you in a [vision], for we have had great [dreams …] night […].”
[He said], “Why have [you … when] <you> have gone into hiding?” [38]

I was studying on this translater and tested whether the papyri actually dated from that time. And it was found that dated between 240-320 after Christ. Alone which passed through five hands before reaching the hands of the translator, who eventually spoiling, thus hampering translate.

Ventania: And see here: there are several other hidden. This version that you are giving me is one. There are several others who are hidden and kept the seven keys by the Catholic church. .

Jefferson: Well, let’s then focus on what can be understood this. They are only 7 pages, but so we will reap some knowledge with you. All right?

Ventania: Yes.

Jefferson:

THE DISCIPLES SEE THE TEMPLE AND DISCUSS IT
They [said, “We have seen] a great [house with a large] altar [in it, and] twelve
men—they are the priests, we would say—and a name; and a crowd of people is waiting at that altar, [until] the priests [… and receive] the offerings. [But] we kept waiting.”

They made many offerings.

Ventania: The number 12 represents the 12 tribes only. If you want to know who are the disciples, are 13, the magic number is 13.

It is interesting that they made their offerings to ask God for something, then a pigeon had to die. Or a lamb had to die. And these people criticized the Africans, who also did offerings of fruit and food. Because Africa, especially the African slave he has non food. So when he can offer something to God, he offers the best he has :, which is the food.

But see, the two visions: For the Jew of that era was beautiful kill, and today is ugly kill the one who is subjugated by Christianity. (sorry, the last part I did not understand very well. Miss Froggy)

Jefferson:The Romans had this habit of making an offering to the gods, then the Christians … They did not wanted to do and were martyred.

Ventania: It was the custom of that time.

 

[Jesus said], “What are [the priests] like?”
They [said, “Some …] two weeks; [some] sacrifice their own children, others their
wives, in praise [and] humility with each other; some sleep with men; some are involved in [slaughter]; some commit a multitude of sins and deeds of lawlessness. And the men who stand [before] the altar invoke your [name], [39] and in all the deeds of their deficiency, the sacrifices are brought to completion […].”
After they said this, they were quiet, for they were troubled.

Ventania: These sarcedotes represent humans. Actually represent the sarcedotes of various religions. And that if there is a heaven and hell, and I say now, it does not existWho exist inside this heaven and hell are these sarcedotes. It was they who wronged him, killed, robbed and destroyed. And this is simply a readaptation of what happens today.

The sarcedote passes for wise, but it’s dirtier than the one that dirty in the killings.

The people are much cleaner before God, before the creation, than the sarcedotes. For this reason the beast dwells within the churches.

Born one or other, That will be good, but it will be difficult to fight against this system.

Jefferson: You have been crucified together, but During the choice between Jesus and Barabbas, if it really happened, where you stood?

Ventania: I non participated in this trial. I was on a domestic sector and was taken to Golgotha.

I was non nailed to the wood. I was tied.

Jefferson: What did they decide that you deserve to be condemned on the cross? What did you do?

 

Ventania: At the time the Romans believed that stealing should be punished with death. It was the only time that I stole. In fact, I collected. Maybe I wanted to deliver it (30 denarii) at another time to Jesus or Judas. I just collected. And not only these coins. I came too soon after, in the room where the Last Supper was made and carried with me a beautiful chalicethat later was called the holy grail.

That is, I had a wooden chalice but possessed pandoro inside and was (sorry, didnt understand)? And I also caught with coins. So it was reason to be crucified. They needed public. It had to be 3 to give example.

Jefferson: Pontius Pilate’s wife really had a revelation that the name of Pontius Pilate would be cursed? And she even asked to non cruxify him?

Ventania: She believed in Jesus and Pontius Pilate also. Jesus chose Pilate, because he knew what would happen. Who condemned him was the people. Who condemned him, was the sarcedotes. Who condemns are the sarcedotes.

Jefferson: Also it is beautiful when the centurion goes at noon find Jesus and asks to save the sick child.

Ventania “Go Your faith has healed you.” Jesus also raised Talita. Not necessarily was dead, but they were in a coma. In fever.

Jefferson: Jesus touched everyone and faith has changed many people.

Ventania: He was doctor of doctors. You see, I am called a demon. My name inside this Umbanda cult is Eshu. I am regarded as a demon and I’m here defending Him.

Jefferson: It is, but the religious people will say that you are doing good to win the belief of the people.

Ventania: Yes, because I came to steal, kill and destroy.

Jefferson: You already know everything.

Ventania: I hear this every day. It is interesting that these churches on Friday they exorcises the devil, but this same demon return on Monday. What devil is this, is not it? What devil is this? Is it not of the head of people and sarcedotes? (heling men?

Jefferson:

JESUS OFFERS AN ALLEGORICAL INTERPRETATION OF THE VISION OF THE TEMPLE
Jesus said to them, “Why are you troubled? Truly I say to you, all the priests who stand
before that altar invoke my name. Again I say to you, my name has been written on this […] of the generations of the stars through the human generations. [And they] have planted trees without fruit, in my name, in a shameful manner.”
Jesus said to them, “Those you have seen receiving the offerings at the altar—that is
who you are. That is the god you serve, and you are those twelve men you have seen. The cattle you have seen brought for sacrifice are the many people you lead astray [40] before that altar. […] will stand and make use of my name in this way, and generations of the pious will remain loyal to him. After hi another man will stand there from [the fornicators], and another [will] stand there from the slayers of children, and another from those who sleep with men, and those who abstain, and the rest of the people of pollution and lawlessness and error, and those who say, ‘We are like angels’;

Ventania: When he says, “and another from Those who sleep with men,” he is referring to the Romans. This happens since the world began. There is a very well-known person who issued the Gospel and possessed a thorn in the flesh. And he was a Roman. This thorn in the flesh may represent, I will not say to not offend the tendency to sleep with men. So, sin is in the hand that writes the facts. It is based on human standards and put words in God’s mouth. People who write, they draw from a source and write what they want. So often are wise words. But too many times they are not.

Do you think that abhor so much before God, he would have allowed?

As I said, there are many versions of these papyri, which was not only one who talked about Jesus. In the future, you will know more.

Jefferson: Homosexuality is only an experience for the spirit. A proof like any other.

Ventania: But at the time it was regarded as a sin by the Hebrews. However, a normal practice among other people. He who lies down with another man is stealing, lying, and killing?

Jefferson: fornicating

Ventania: If he is fornicating, it is not, to me to judge. He is stealing, lying and destroying? No. He found the other side of his coin.

Jefferson: It is also the heteros can also furnicar.

Ventania: Very soon you will find also words that condemn witches. And I was a wizard.

Jefferson: I even found someone who called himself to be perfect. The most difficult, according to spiritism, to get rid of is pride.

Ventania: It is the first symptom of unbalanced. Great mediums, and great philosophers lie down with other men. And it happened. I’m not defending, just know it’s a hot topic among you guys. It is important to note that sin is in the heart of who does. Sin is to kill, steal and destroy. But, for many I am the demon that is promoting sin.

Jefferson: Who opens the horizons against cultural direction for issues of ambitionthat is the devil.

Ventania: They need so much of the devil. The devil does not know who has great employees. Now, I’ll give an example: If the priests and pastors, all these apostles … They say every man who offend the laws of God go to hell, is going be condemned and mistreated by the devil, that is the thing most incoherent I’ve ever heard.
Because if I am the enemy of God, to get to hell, I will be very well treated by the devil. And if by accident the devil is not the enemy of God? And if by chance are two sides of the same coin? And if by chance the enemies of God are the sarcedotes? Ie puts information on the person PERISPIRIT and she, after years and years of disembodiment, will suffer in hell that does not even exist? * (According to spiritism, hell is a mental, individual status of each one. You take your beliefs. It’s like drugs and you see that monsters do not exist. Are all the imaginations own mind)

Jefferson:

‘We are like angels’; they are the stars that bring everything to its conclusion. For to the human generations it has been said, ‘Look, God has received your sacrifice from the hands of a priest’—that is, a minister of error. But it is the Lord, the Lord of the universe, who commands, ‘On the last day they will be put to shame.’” [41]

Ventania: God does not take pleasure from the slaughter of any animal, regardless of whether it comes from the hand of a layman or a priest. God does not want death. God is life. He did not expect it.

Jefferson:

Jesus said [to them], “Stop sac[rificing …] which you have […] over the altar, since
they are over your stars and your angels and have already come to their conclusion there.
So let them be [ensnared] before you, and let them go [—about 15 lines missing—]
generations […]. A baker cannot feed all creation [42] under [heaven]. And […] to them […] and […] to us and […]

Ventania: He not fed with fish. He fed with the word of God. “Not only bread alone does man live, but by every word of God”. He spread his disciples among the crowd. People heard the words and hunger was sated. And after that, they left over 13 baskets that tell the apostles. Full of bread and fish. For the people they were full of God’s word. There was no multiplication of the bread.

Jefferson: There was no five flatbreads and two fishes?

Ventania: It was simply allegorical. It is the word of God That feeds. The person who comes to hear a teacher who will preachshe usually takes a potato a bread or something to eat later in the day. In addition to receiving the glory of God, you have yet to get a snack? (Sarcasmus). This was the representation of the fear of Peter. It was Peter who said .: The people are hungry. Who always said no, it was Peter. Peter was the stumbling block. He was a coward. But he represented humanity. She, humanity has this feature.

Jefferson: One version says that someone tells Judas: – Why are you worried about getting the gun? If Jesus can multiply both pao, both fish … If he wants to enter an army, he can multiply a lot of weapon.

Ventania: The proof that he did non this multiplication. He made the multiplication of awareness. He made people begin to understand the next and not go to war. Instead of creating weapons.

Jefferson: Even today we were no able to understand this.

Ventania: Other avatars, like Krishna for example at battle of Kurukshetra, asket to arjuna if he wanted an army next to him or simply Krishna company. And he accepted Krishna company. The arrows were thrown about Arjuna, Krishna threw the front, so They protected each other.

Therefore, when the being is Illuminated the gun is unnecessary. The idea of spirituality is to light with the knowledge of God, or Goddess called Barbalo, which is at the center of this universe. . .

Jefferson: It must have been very hard for Jesus, see all as children, all as brothers, love the neighbor unconditionally and having to witness the clashes, one wanting to annihilate the other.

Ventania: Yeah. Did you finished your manuscript?

Jefferson: It’s ending.

Jesus said to them, “Stop struggling with me. Each of you has his own star, and every[body—about 17 lines missing—] [43] in […] who has come [… spring] for the tree […] of this aeon […] for a time […] but he has come to water God’s paradise, and the [generation] that will last, because [he] will not defile the [walk of life of] that generation, but […] for all eternity.”
JUDAS ASKS JESUS ABOUT THAT GENERATION AND HUMAN GENERATIONS
Judas said to [him, “Rabb]i, what kind of fruit does this generation produce?”
Jesus said, “The souls of every human generation will die. When these people,
however, have completed the time of the kingdom and the spirit leaves them, their bodies will die but their souls will be alive, and they will be taken up.”
Judas said, “And what will the rest of the human generations do?”
Jesus said, “It is impossible [44] to sow seed on [rock] and harvest its fruit. [This] is
also the way […] the [defiled] generation […] and corruptible Sophia […] the hand that has created mortal people, so that their souls go up to the eternal realms above. [Truly] I say to you, […] angel […] power will be able to see that […] these to whom […] holy generations […].”
After Jesus said this, he departed.

Jefferson: Jesus left, did not stood still in one place.
Ventania: It is a very old language, Nazarene means traveler.

Jefferson:

SCENE 3: Judas recounts a vision and Jesus responds
Judas said, “Master, as you have listened to all of them, now also listen to me. For I have seen a great vision.”
When Jesus heard this, he laughed and said to him, “You thirteenth spirit, why do you
try so hard? But speak up, and I shall bear with you.”
Judas said to him, “In the vision I saw myself as the twelve disciples were stoning me
and [45] persecuting [me severely]. And I also came to the place where […] after you. I
saw [a house …], and my eyes could not [comprehend] its size. Great people were
surrounding it, and that house <had> a roof of greenery, and in the middle of the house was [a crowd—two lines missing—], saying, ‘Master, take me in along with these people.’”

Jefferson: Jesus interpreted their dreams. It was a vision like close the eye and have an imagination.

Ventania: They were as realistic visions. It was like an epiphany.

Jefferson: I just remember what you said in other dialogues “I pity the one who read only one book”

Ventania: Yeah. I feel sorry and compassion.

Jefferson:

SCENE 3: Judas recounts a vision and Jesus responds
Judas said, “Master, as you have listened to all of them, now also listen to me. For I have seen a great vision.”
When Jesus heard this, he laughed and said to him, “You thirteenth spirit, why do you
try so hard? But speak up, and I shall bear with you.”
Judas said to him, “In the vision I saw myself as the twelve disciples were stoning me
and [45] persecuting [me severely]. And I also came to the place where […] after you. I
saw [a house …], and my eyes could not [comprehend] its size. Great people were
surrounding it, and that house <had> a roof of greenery, and in the middle of the house was [a crowd—two lines missing—], saying, ‘Master, take me in along with these people.’”

Ventania: Who is the star that turned?

Jefferson: I did not understand this part.

Ventania: Who is the morning star? Lucifer. Lucifer is the morning star. He lives and co-create on the planet Venus. When he says: “Your star turned him aside” means “. You’re leaving of being love to be reason” It has to be balanced. You should rebalance.

Jefferson:

JUDAS ASKS ABOUT HIS OWN FATE
Judas said, “Master, could it be that my seed is under the control of the rulers?”
Jesus answered and said to him, “Come, that I [—two lines missing—], but that you
will grieve much when you see the kingdom and all its generation.”
When he heard this, Judas said to him, “What good is it that I have received it? For
you have set me apart for that generation.”
Jesus answered and said, “You will become the thirteenth, and you will be cursed by
the other generations—and you will come to rule over them. In the last days they will
curse your ascent [47] to the holy [generation].”

Ventania: He was cursed, stomped, excoriated. But it was he responsible for the Chamber to bring true Christianity, ending the barbarities that remade church.

Jefferson:

JESUS TEACHES JUDAS ABOUT COSMOLOGY: THE SPIRIT AND THE SELF-GENERATED
Jesus said, “[Come], that I may teach you about [secrets] no person [has] ever seen. For there exists a great and boundless realm, whose extent no generation of angels has seen, [in which] there is [a] great invisible [Spirit], which no eye of an angel has ever seen, no thought of the heart has ever comprehended, and it was never called by any name.
“And a luminous cloud appeared there. He said, ‘Let an angel come into being as my
attendant.’
“A great angel, the enlightened divine Self-Generated, emerged from the cloud.
Because of him, four other angels came into being from another cloud, and they became attendants for the angelic Self-Generated. The Self-Generated said, [48] ‘Let […] come into being […],’ and it came into being […]. And he [created] the first luminary to reign over him. He said, ‘Let angels come into being to serve [him],’ and myriads without number came into being. He said, ‘[Let] an enlightened aeon come into being,’ and he came into being. He created the second luminary [to] reign over him, together with myriads of angels without number, to offer service. That is how he created the rest of the enlightened aeons. He made them reign over them, and he created for them myriads of angels without number, to assist them.

Jefferson: It means: the knowledge that today, in fact, He is speaking of God, or not? of creation

Ventania: These angels that you refer are the holy spirit, which is divided into several personalities and is also interdimensional beings who are also seen as angels. These stars are the two sides of the coin: One refers to the devil as the morning star. And Pedro was referring to Jesus as the morning star. Pharaoh is the morning star. So are the lights, are the masters. Are the wise.

Jefferson:

ADAMAS AND THE LUMINARIES

I do not know why, but this name is not strange.

Ventania: It refers to the Adamic Race.

Jefferson: Also sumo-priest of the city of Telos.

Ventania: Yes Below the hill Chaster..

Jefferson: Is there really? Perhaps, when we get the fourth density, they’re going to emerge (manifest)?

Ventania: Yes. Soon they will manifest. At this time I am working with this psychic apparatus (medium Fernando Parada), and I’m channeling a manuscript actually a book that will be left for posterity, where I talk about it. For example, my experience also with these in-earthly beings. Because I also participate in the central kingdom.

Jefferson: You now lives in spirit?

Ventania: Yes. I Shall not reincarnate again.

 

Jefferson:

“Adamas was in the first luminous cloud that no angel has ever seen among all those
called ‘God.’ He [49] […] that […] the image […] and after the likeness of [this] angel.
He made the incorruptible [generation] of Seth appear […] the twelve […] the twentyfour
[…]. He made seventy-two luminaries appear in the incorruptible generation, in
accordance with the will of the Spirit. The seventy-two luminaries themselves made three hundred sixty luminaries appear in the incorruptible generation, in accordance with the will of the Spirit, that their number should be five for each.

Jefferson: I’m thinking of jumping, since your time is short, right?

Ventania: I believe that this study can be done on another occasion, because many people are not prepared to understand what these luminarias, and the generations of Cain and Abel and Seth. It may be necessary to stop for now. We’ll talk another time on this. It is complex and not everyone is prepared.

Jefferson: So’ll skip these complex parts of the cosmos and symbology. Thus we arrive at the end.

THE COSMOS, CHAOS, AND THE UNDERWORLD
“The multitude of those immortals is called the cosmos— that is, perdition—by the
Father and the seventy-two luminaries who are with the Self-Generated and his seventytwo aeons. In him the first human appeared with his incorruptible powers.

Which means seventy-two?

Ventania: They are the amounts of geniuses. The amounts of the names of God and quantity of angels.

Jefferson:

THE CREATION OF HUMANITY
“Then Saklas said to his angels, ‘Let us create a human being after the likeness and after the image.’ They fashioned Adam and his wife Eve, who is called, in the cloud, Zoe. For by this name all the generations seek the man, and each of them calls the woman by these names. Now, Sakla did not [53] com[mand …] except […] the gene[rations …] this […].
And the [ruler] said to Adam, ‘You shall live long, with your children.’”

He is referring to Genesis?

Ventania: He’s talking to, who formed mankind was Saklas. And Saklas is not the true God. It is the false god. It is God that meets their demands and not the God-father of Jesus. It is not Sophia. Study the Cathars and you know, at what point is worshiped the true God and God is the own demon.

Jefferson:

JUDAS ASKS ABOUT THE DESTINY OF ADAM AND HUMANITY
Judas said to Jesus, “[What] is the long duration of time that the human being will live?”
Jesus said, “Why are you wondering about this, that Adam, with his generation, has lived his span of life in the place where he has received his kingdom, with longevity with his ruler?”
Judas said to Jesus, “Does the human spirit die?”
Jesus said, “This is why God ordered Michael to give the spirits of people to them as a
loan, so that they might offer service, but the Great One ordered Gabriel to grant spirits to the great generation with no ruler over it—that is, the spirit and the soul. Therefore, the [rest] of the souls [54] [—one line missing—].

Ventania: You want having only one Adam and Eve. But are genetic mixes and emerged several of them. And they generated several of their races.

Jefferson: And the angels Gabriel and Michael even exist? Archangels?

Ventania: They are the arms of God. There are archangels. There are high beings. They are part of this Holy Spirit. (Collegiate)

Jefferson:

JESUS DISCUSSES THE DESTRUCTION OF THE WICKED WITH JUDAS AND OTHERS
“[…] light [—nearly two lines missing—] around […] let […] spirit [that is] within you dwell in this [flesh] among the generations of angels. But God caused knowledge to be [given] to Adam and those with him, so that the kings of chaos and the underworld might not lord it over them.”

If you have knowledge, you can be controlled.

Ventania: If you have knowledge, you can also not be controlled. That’s what happened to Judas. He had the knowledge. He was the star diverted. He had the notion, cold, what was the truth. So he retorted.

Jefferson:

Judas said to Jesus, “So what will those generations do?”
Jesus said, “Truly I say to you, for all of them the stars bring matters to completion.
When Saklas completes the span of time assigned for him, their first star will appear with the generations, and they will finish what they said they would do.

Jefferson: Saklas had a designated time.

Ventania: It is the demonic representation governing humanity.

(According to the book “The path of Light” the author Emmanuel, psychographic by the medium Francisco Xavier, Jesus met with the Christs of the galaxy and asked for a deadline for Humanity, which will be completed in 2019. If in this time, the earth is not destroyed by atomic war, then we will pass to the world of regeneration world, a more peaceful and happy world, where there will be peace …)

Ventania: Many beings are working so there is a time of grace, to avoid complete destruction. While each of you buys a material object and writes: “God gave me” often could write: “Saklas which gave me.” For it is the God of this world that is giving you. And not the God-father of Jesus.

Jefferson: So it seems that there is a mask “Saklas”, as if the mind preventing access to the spirit. (Ego)

Ventania: Saklas is (didn’t understand, sorry) that makes the human being wrong. And the human being likes to make mistakes. He likes the material. He likes to cheat, steal, kill and destroy. And like always condemn. Wrong is always the other, never himself.

Jefferson:

Then they will fornicate in my name and slay their children [55] and they will […] and [—about six and a half lines missing—] my name, and he will […] your star over the [thir]teenth aeon.”
After that Jesus [laughed].
[Judas said], “Master, [why are you laughing at us]?”
[Jesus] answered [and said], “I am not laughing [at you] but at the error of the stars, because these six stars wander about with these five combatants, and they all will be destroyed along with their creatures.”

Jefferson: I find pretty, Jesus laughing. In the other Gospels not mention that he was smiling.

Ventania: The Gospel of Judas is more closest to reality. He does not have the coolness that the human being deposited. They made him a serious man. Jesus was happy. Be happy you too. I’ll give you some advice: Do as Francis of Assisi. When he was inside the church, and the cross spoke to him, the cross said, “My house is destroyed.
Go and rebuild my church. “And that was what he did.

So I say to every one: Build this church inside of you, through the teaching of simplicity.

Human beings have difficulty touching in what is disgusting. Think of Francis of Assisi who once saw a leper who went cold, ringing a bell. He came in his direction, and donated him his own garments. He covered the leper and kiss his face.

So kiss your lepers and stop philosophizing upon allegories.

Jefferson:

[Judas said], “Master, [why are you laughing at us]?”
[Jesus] answered [and said], “I am not laughing [at you] but at the error of the stars, because these six stars wander about with these five combatants, and they all will be destroyed along with their creatures.”

Ventania: The stars represent other worlds where beings are not necessarily constituted of carbon. Its neighboring planets. In another moment I’ll talk to you about the prophecies of Nostradamus.

Jefferson: Oh, you’re committing to return to talk to me? Is good.

Ventania: So, you will commit to reading my story, so it’s publishedso you will know the teaching that I want to leave on the earth.

Jefferson:

JESUS SPEAKS OF THOSE WHO ARE BAPTIZED, AND JUDAS’S BETRAYAL
Judas said to Jesus, “Look, what will those who have been baptized in your name do?”
Jesus said, “Truly I say [to you], this baptism [56] […] my name [—about nine lines
missing—] to me. Truly [I] say to you, Judas, [those who] offer sacrifices to Saklas […]
God [—three lines missing—] everything that is evil.

Ventania:Baptism means to accept the truthconsciously. Contrary to what the Catholic church did, that washed the head of babies and claiming to be baptized. This child grew and paid his taxes to the church. Unlike the Cathar teaching, in which man must receive baptism consciously. In other words, with water or not. Be baptized in spirit and conscious intelligence, coolness and love. This is the true baptism.

Jefferson: Why Jesus always said, Verily I say unto you, or truly?

Ventania: So that there is not doubt. Because there was much lie within the allegories. So, what he said was the truth.

Jefferson:

“But you will exceed all of them. For you will sacrifice the man that clothes me.

Ventania: He is saying that Judas should deliver, so he go to the cross. Sacrifice does not mean death. He would be sacrificed, to be reborn. It’s like the number of card 12 in taro. The hanged. He is sacrificing, but is not dead. I really like this card because it is a representation of Jesus.

Jefferson:

Already your horn has been raised, your wrath has been kindled, your star has shown brightly, and your heart has […]. [57]

Ventania: The horn is the connection with the planet Venus. You see, all the time, Jesus mentions Venus. Venus is also represented by a bull. He is pointing to the sky, saying: Your connection with the sky, with the morning star, have made you wise.

“Truly […] your last […] become [—about two and a half lines missing—], grieve
[—about two lines missing—] the ruler, since he will be destroyed. And then the image of the great generation of Adam will be exalted, for prior to heaven, earth, and the angels, that generation, which is from the eternal realms, exists. Look, you have been told everything. Lift up your eyes and look at the cloud and the light within it and the stars surrounding it. The star that leads the way is your star.”

Jefferson: It seems that he is referring to the signs.

Ventania: He keeps referring to Venus. Venus is the monitor of this plan.

 

Judas lifted up his eyes and saw the luminous cloud, and he entered it. Those standing
on the ground heard a voice coming from the cloud, saying, [58] […] great generation
[…] … image […] [—about five lines missing—].

Jefferson: This is extraterrestrial.

Ventania: As you had mentioned angels, was already talking about it. And I can give examples of those who have in their back those myriads of fumes in the form of rainbow, which are like wings actually are beings from *** Arthurus.

Those standing
on the ground heard a voice coming from the cloud, saying, [58] […] great generation
[…] … image […] [—about five lines missing—].
CONCLUSION: JUDAS BETRAYS JESUS
[…] Their high priests murmured because [he] had gone into the guest room for his
prayer. But some scribes were there watching carefully in order to arrest him during the prayer, for they were afraid of the people, since he was regarded by all as a prophet.
They approached Judas and said to him, “What are you doing here? You are Jesus’
disciple.”
Judas answered them as they wished. And he received some money and handed him over to them.

Jefferson: Do you think there was change in this gospel too?

Ventania: Yes. Human beings need to blame someone.
  He did not need of the money.
And if he needed money to bury his mother, he would talk to Jesus and use the money of the common purse of the group. Therefore, in times of despair, Judas was trying to negotiate because it was losing everything in his life. And it would be a father. Losing a mother and a child about to be born. These are informations that you guys do not have, but soon you will know what will happen.

Jefferson: So, at least in this version of this gospel, not say much Judas’s life. And in the end, still had the alteration, that not told the same story which you claim to have been real.

Ventania:About the life of Judas, who spoke most about was me. But there are several versions. This is an allegorical version. But I can say this, it will cause a lot of doubt. Ifrenezi.

A great medium that will be responsible for the divulgation of the spiritualist doctrine is the fruit of friendship between Judas and Jesus.

Jefferson: Just a moment. Please repeat. I could not understand.

Ventania: A great medium that will be responsible for the divulgation of the spiritualist doctrine is the fruit of friendship between Judas and Jesus. Descents.

Jefferson: Our mother. So, we begin to finalize the study of Judas gospel with some considerations.

The first: If you were to set Judas, what kind of man was he? Did someone fighting the government and oppression, so that the people’s interests were taken into account or how you define it?

Ventania: It would be a great ruler. Just. Just.

Jefferson: Of course. And after that incarnation, Judas threw himself committed suicide?

Ventania: No. He will not be threw. He did not hang himself. He retired to a fortress Essene. A gospel says one thing. The other says another. So it’s a lie.

Jefferson: So he did not kill himself? It was not suicide?

Ventania: No. There was no need to commit suicide. Instead, he had to write. His scriptures are stored. One day it will be revealed.

Jefferson: It is true that he was the reincarnation of Joan of Arc?

Ventania: He was much more than that. To the respect the spirit of Joan of Arc at the moment does not suit me, to disclose, because there is a medium who works with her. So many people shall come, bringing informations that may be right or wrong.

But I can say that Joana Darc is one of the spirits who was present among the 13 apostles. Among the 13 apostles.

Jefferson: So, Judas was his favorite.

Ventania: Yes He, Andrew and Mary of Migdal..

Jefferson: Why?

Ventania: Intelligence, power, communication ability. And assimilation.

Jefferson: What is the message of the true story of Judas that can be passed to us today and may have utility and importance for us?

Ventania: In a few words?

Jefferson: yes.

Ventania: Humanity needs to blame someone. Even if this person is good. Even if this person is a lamb. Thereforeshe needs to blame. His teaching is: learned, stored wrote. And in the next, reincarnations, he will do great things.

It is not always possible to accomplish on earth all you want. Jesus came from the east and tried to spread the knowledge among his. And today many misrepresent it.

It will be necessary for many, many incarnations that human beings come out of neanderthal state, which still insists on staying.

The word that I see in Jesus: The Liberator. So that’s it.

Jefferson: What is the interaction between Jesus and Judas and this plot because it certainly has a message behind it all?

Ventania: They were dear friends. He was like a real brother. Even they were physically alike. So, everything there is a reason to happen. All those who were involved, reincarnated and had a relevant importance in the great moments of humanity.

And do not think that Judas was the spirit of Hitler, because it is not.

Jefferson: Finalizing. Why you wanted to do this study of the Gospel of Judas with me?

Ventania: To end the hypocrisy of people find that the culprit is always the others and not herself.

When you say that there is a traitor, a demon, a destroyer … Look at yourself. Then you will see all these defects in itself. So, attained enlightenment.

Jefferson: It’s a simple message, direct and that many people do not give importance but is of great importance.

Ventania: Empty your cup to receive this knowledge. I would say more, empty your graau and you will receive. Love your neighbor as yourself, and obey it. And do not to the Saklas. Not one that will give you material things. Not one who will give you 30 denarii.

Because there’re selling Jesus every day by thousands of denarii. Do not be the moneychangers from the temple.

This is my goodbye. Eshu Ventania will leave.

Jefferson: Thanks God.

 

Medium Fernando Parada: Hello Jefferson.

Jefferson: Mr. Fernando Parada?

Medium Fernando Parada: Hi, how are you? What time is it? Wow, we stayed two hours and forty.

Jefferson: How are you feeling now after the merger?

Medium Fernando Parada:

It is as if he had drained my head, tight and taken everything. Tired. It is very tiring. He is very heavy. While he is light, h is heavy. It’s a strange thing. He is very mental-As Father Joaquim works giving passes and talking, he is very philosophical and very mental. I think he ends up with my neurones.

Jefferson: I thank once again to participate and interact, intermediating a dialogue with the spirits that you do willingly and charity.

Medium Fernando Parada: I thank you. When you need, I’ll be at the disposal. we will do fondly.

Jefferson: Thanks to God.

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References:

http://www.nationalgeographic.com/lostgospel/_pdf/CopticGospelOfJudas.pdfhttp://www.nationalgeographic.com/lostgospel/_pdf/GospelofJudas.pdf